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Sun, Apr 1, 2007 at 1:17:17 AM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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Hi all,

 

OK guys we all know that the rendering capabilities of revit are embarrassing. If you are serious about producing quality renderings you have to go elsewhere and use another engine.

 

I have seen what Maxwell can do. Truley awesome! However, using Revit and Maxwell, the workflow is too time consuming. When your on deadlines you need to act fast and efficiently. I am dissapointed with this as the Maxwell product is truly amazing.

 

So guys, in the interests of being realistic with the amount of time you should be spending in creating renderings and being able to quickly with the development of the project, what is the best choice in rendering engine for revit when considering the following:

 

1. Minimal if any manipulation of the exported file in order to begin rendering.

2. Photorealistic results.

3. Price.

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Sun, Apr 1, 2007 at 1:55:30 AM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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Export to dwg, Import into Max/Viz, render with either VRay or Maxwell plugin. Simplest, easiest, best quality, but expensive.

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Sat, Apr 7, 2007 at 3:50:55 AM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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Hi framerman, 

I agree with you. Everything I have looked at leads me back to the combination you have mentioned.

In the interests of creating good quality renders, quickly and efficiently and with the least amount of complicated set-up and function which software is a better choice?  Viz or 3ds?

 

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Sat, Apr 7, 2007 at 3:57:00 AM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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Viz and Max are the same engine if I'm not mistaken. They are essentially the same program. Max has more modeling tools for games, movies and such. Viz has been treated more for arch vizualization. 

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Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:34:52 PM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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Dear Framan and others

As you wrote Revit-DWG into Max Then Maxwell(Plug-in).What I am trying to solve is-is there a way to get the materials from revit to in some form -be exported into max -that Maxwell will understand.Until today I always need to reset the Maxwell materials in Max.I do it already very quickly but still I would prefer to have another smoke instead........

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Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:48:13 PM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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Honestly the best combo I have found is Revit-Sketchup-Kerkythea

 

Model in revit, paint colors in sketchup, assign materials to color groups in kerkythea.  Plus if you really get to know kerkythea well there is a lot of time saving things.

 

and the renderings can be better then viz. 


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Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:50:57 AM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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hi there

 

have you guys moved to revit 2010-11 ?

you happy with rendering results there? check out my samples

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Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:31:47 PM | cadjockey

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Quoting cadjockey from 2007-03-31 20:17:17

  

"If you are serious about producing quality renderings you have to go elsewhere and use another engine."

  

 

if you IMAGINE you can render better with "another engine"- you will probably end up "embarrassing" yourself.. rendering doesn't sell your project anyway- the shape of your geometry does..

 


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Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:28:15 PM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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the rendering capabilities of Revit only reflects the capabilites of the user to Render with Revit.


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Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:14:57 PM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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I find the revit rendering abilities to be entirely satisfactory!  

 

I've actually been on a rendering kick for the last two weeks, producing images for our client to fundraise with.  They couldn't be more pleased with the material they're getting.   You've got to be anal with render matierals, however.  And there's a long period where everything renders like trash, until suddenly -- every render looks beautiful.  Placing enough RPCs and cars and trees and light fixtures and decals... getting the lighting settings dialed... I can understand how point-and-click 3d-party rendering could be attractive, but mental ray within revit looks beautiful, and plays into the BIM aspect of all this quite nicely.


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Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:49:40 AM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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i've seen Vray upside down and backwards.. i know i can export to Max and render with the Vray plug-in.. it really has taken me a long time to realize that MentalRay can't be beat.. and guess what else i think? i think no rendering program using MentalRay can beat revit using MentalRay.. MentalRay in revit is simple and clean- nothing to get in the way of precision illumination and smoothness.. i wouldn't care if revit stripped away everything else.. i could take the image into any simple program to clean up the gamma and exposure and saturate it with color if i wanted to.. i could filter the image in photoshop and tell you it was rendered in Vray.. the only reason we have the FBX export in revit today is because people like me in the old days insisted that AccuRender was not adquate..


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Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:05:16 PM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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I agree with lunchtrayrider. The "Revit-Sketchup-Kerkythea" method works for me. It saves alot of time. MUCH cheaper too...

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Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:36:42 PM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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botom line, there is not best revit/rendering engine combo. it's what your best at revit/rendering engine combo.


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Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:04:04 PM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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also it depends on for what purpose you are using revit.. it has been a surprise to me seeing all the artists being attracted to revit starting about three years ago.. apparently they find revit to be something they can make art with.. autodesk has now even jumped on the opportunity to sell these artists a cut down version of revit just for them to do their art with.. and they like to take stuff they make in revit into a variety of other programs to render and add excitement and visual stimulation to their art work.. but to everyone else- the main purpose of revit is to create construction documents.. and yes there is a bit of an art to making building geometry render good for visual presentations of the model- but most of that can be learned along with learning how to render.. although sometimes i would like to call in a starving artist to help me pick colors and materials for a rendering- lol- because i don't consider myself much of an artist- other than creating geometric shapes that i think looks good for a building.. here is an example with this image i posted- (rendered at screen resolution)- where a client asked me if i would create plans for a house they wanted to build.. they wanted it to look like one of those double-wide manufactured homes but built better.. my point is that for me- the rendering job revit does is perfect for the way i use revit.. and for me to try and get the client even more excited about what they see by using dazzling artistic effects provided in other rendering programs would not be cost affective for me..



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Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 9:57:34 PM | What is the best revit/rendering engine combo?

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this thread was started before revit got MentalRay- so they definitely had a point about revit rendering not being adequate at that time.. but even then i concluded that it would be more practical to push autodesk for a better rendering engine than to export.. 


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