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Mon, Aug 7, 2006 at 5:45:01 PM | rhino

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How usable is rhino with revit? We'll eventually be using revit for all of our modeling, but for presenting, animating and rendering we are looking into rhino - anyone haave any experinece with that? thanks, Brian

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Mon, Aug 7, 2006 at 9:51:45 PM | RE: rhino

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I used it a little in school -- it has a better rendering engine, and I think it had more animation capabilites (I never really used those). I don't know exactly what you mean by presentation -- it doesn't do any of the architect-specific things that revit does, so it can be tedious to make drawing sheets from it. You might look at viz or 3DSMax for rendering though -- they work much faster for very similar results. Rhino's real strength is of course NURBS, which don't usually play much of a part in mainstream practice (though they can be handy for plumbing fixtures, etc. of complex curvy shapes). Good luck.

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Mon, Aug 7, 2006 at 10:03:35 PM | RE: rhino

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thanks erin... well, we were thinking of rhino cos it seems to have the same functionality as a Max or Viz, but it's easier to learn, cheaper, and it seems more versitile in helping to create truly interactive presentations of our projects... and as a firm we want to move into a certain level of product design. we'd do all our documenting, cd's and what not, in revit and (hopefully) be able to run rhino side by side with our (exported/imported) revit model. we'd have to do some updating in rhino when the design changes - and i guess that would be another question, maybe for the rhino users, is how easy it is to update the model and make rendering changes... if all our modeling is done in revit - for weekly, bi-weekly meetings, presentations...

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Mon, Aug 7, 2006 at 11:07:17 PM | RE: rhino

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Rhino is the least restrictive, most capable 3D modeling program I am aware of. It is a joy to work with once you get the hang of it - an excellent 3D interface and very powerful and well conceived modeling tools. The supporting modules offer animation and rendering capabilites to round the program out to make if very competitive with Viz, Max etc. Better modeling capabilites, easier to learn and use (my opinion), substantially less expensive. Rhino is extremely accurate, and capable of modeling forms of virturally any level of complexity. I see it as a powerful potential companion to Revit, which is of course very strong in modeling the kinds of forms typical of mainstream construction, but not designed to work outside of that realm. Rhino is used by progressive firms (i.e. Gehry, Moss, Eisenman...) to craft organic architectural forms, and by builders, shipbuilders, etc. interested in precise fabrication of unrestricted form. It is used by jewerly desigers, industrial designers, engineers, etc. Quite a few high schools are teaching it in conjunction with shop programs. It talks directly to solid modeling 'plotters' as well as 3D digitizers. Rhino would seem to be a great vehicle to generate geometry for families. It may also be an intriguing means of creating mass objects for Revit. I have not had time to dive into this, but I do intend to explore it. I'm so busy in my practice (working in Revit) that I have not had time to drill into these areas, but I want to at least share my enthusiasm for, appreciation of, and interest in the work of Robert McNeel & Co. (the little Seattle firm that built this product from the ground up). It seems clear to me that they have a real jewel that may, as a companion product, dramatically expand the possibilities of modeling in Revit. I'm sorry I don't have hard experience in hand yet to back this up, although I must say I recently used Rhino to work out a beautiful site model of some complexity that imported beautifully into Revit.

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