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Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:44:19 AM | Framed Walls with OSB on both sides

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Using RST 2011.

 

Has anyone modeled this with success?  I am trying to use the curtain-wall types, but achieving less than satisfactory results.  My main issues are:

 

1.  Joins between panels and mullions (mullion geometry cuts panels and requires manual input of lap information)

2.  Joins between horizontal and vertical mullions (horizontal mullions, despite the continuous option, are not continuous, and corner joins are SLOPPY)

3.  Openings.  I assumed I could create a door or window in this system, but looks like I was wrong.  Am i missing something?

 

 

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Matt


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Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:35:53 AM | Framed Walls with OSB on both sides

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I can't answer your questions because they really are not specific.  I can say I think you need to find some tutorials on curtain walls. 

  • Curtain wall doors are special doors that replace panels. 
  • Obviously, curtain walls are glazed usually so I assume you mean operable windows.  Operable windows can be created that work the same as curtain wall doors but none are supplied in the library.  Some people replace the panel with a wall that hosts an operable window.

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Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:27:36 PM | Framed Walls with OSB on both sides

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What is it that you are trying to do?


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Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:27:50 PM | Framed Walls with OSB on both sides

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What am I trying to do?

I am trying to model wall framing- with OSB sheets on both sides.

I would also like to add doors and windows, which I also figured out how to do, but I am not happy with the method.

Also, once I remove a mullion (say a horizontal sill plate at a door opening) it is difficult to add it back in.  In general, I find the curtain wall editing to be a little bit...sloppy.


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Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:31:38 PM | Framed Walls with OSB on both sides

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Are you doing this because you need to quantify components?  If not, then I think the CW is the wrong way to go.  Just use walls and add vertical reveals to split it at the panels.  Or use multiple walls end to end but not a CW.  If you use walls, doors and windows will work just fine.


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Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:06:43 PM | Framed Walls with OSB on both sides

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While I am new to curtain walls, I understand that others are not, and were likely to run into the same problems I am having.  I had hoped someone had good/bad experiences to share, and the responses have been helpful, so please feel free to continue sharing your advice/experiences.  I will continue to explore/work with the tools available and share the results.

 

To answer your question Hub.

 

I am using a manufactured system for the walls.  The concept of the curtain wall should work in principle (interior mullions spaced every so often with panels (on one or both sides.)  Do I need the quantities?  No, not necessarily.  However, we are plan to hide interior column within the wall assembly, and from a [German] planning point of view, the ability to see our exact interior stud (really, they are columns) locations is helpful, especially when considering openings.  Furthermore, we develop low-detail drawings/models in these early design stages, so the ability to simply change wall types in order to generate our more detailed systems is an attractive idea.  Maintaining multiple walls, sweeps, arrays and so-forth seems to me, perhaps from an experience-lacking perspective, to be an intensive solution.


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Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:23:55 PM | Framed Walls with OSB on both sides

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Have you looked into: http://www.strucsoftsolutions.com/mwf.asp

This is a wall framer add on, which can probably be adjusted, to do what you want.


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