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Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:45:21 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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We need to able to have ceilings sloped in 2 directions.  Just one direction is not enough.  Transverse ceilings are very common. 


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Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:20:19 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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Does this work for you?

 



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Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:19:02 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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This doesn't seem to work quite right.  I guess because its a triangluar shaped ceiling that I'm trying to slope in 2 directions.  Thanks for the suggestion. 


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Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:36:38 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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It doesn't matter what shape as long as uou have an elevation for the head and the tail.


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Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:54:20 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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Like this?

"Create In-Place" in Ceilings category



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Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:08:05 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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Almost.  But I also want this ceiling to slope upward, toward a peak on the right hand side.  is that possible?  I tried to rotate the sloped ceilings, but Revit doesn't let me do that. 


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Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:10:47 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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Or maybe this is it, but I don't really understand how you did that.  I've only been using this program for a couple of months, so still learning. 


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Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:05:49 AM | Sloped Ceilings

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I have a similar dilemma and I'm trying to avoid using any in-place or alternate objects to acheive two slopes in a faceted ceiling. In what way can I use a slope line such that I can have three precise height offset points? In my case I have the offset points that I want annotated with the third point (not annotated) being at the level of the ceiling. Does anyone have a good procedure for this? I should I use something that is not a ceiling object?

 

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Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:24:37 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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Its possible but you will have to play with the slope arrow angle and elevation (at head in my pic) to get the numbers you are looking for.  In my opinion an in-place component would be easier if it is just this one ceiling area.



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Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:59:40 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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I've tried this similary to how WWHub has posted: completing the quadface of the triangle and extending the arrow along the diagonal, but the points do not match what I need. If I can't do the geometric derivation I would have to do a formula. In the end I'm leaning away from this method and will probably build my ceiling as a floor object instead, but I wanted to excercise this method to illustrate this issue. Thanks for your response!


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Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:00:25 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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"will probably build my ceiling as a floor object instead"

 

This is NOT a good process.


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Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:54:51 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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I've tried this similary to how WWHub has posted: completing the quadface of the triangle and extending the arrow along the diagonal, but the points do not match what I need. If I can't do the geometric derivation I would have to do a formula. In the end I'm leaning away from this method and will probably build my ceiling as a floor object instead, but I wanted to excercise this method to illustrate this issue. Thanks for your response!


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Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:56:40 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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It actually works quite well especially with faceted ceilings. It's actually much more manageable versus inplace extrusions.


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Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:38:10 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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Thats good to hear.  Eitherway you are using a floor as a ceiling and when it comes to schedule, visability or RCP's it will most likely cause some problems.  The best process is to create objects in the category that they belong.


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Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:54:40 PM | Sloped Ceilings

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It's definitely an outside of the box method, but luckily those issues don't really apply too much to RCPs since seeing or not seeing a floor is not a problem. Scheduling, I could see in specific instances that it could be an issue, but from a material and assembly standpoint it's no different. The limitation is that Revit ceiling objects fall short if you need non-regular geometry that slopes in two directions with specific endpoints. Building individual sketch ceilings with slope lines or in-place components do not suffice because making changes becomes a hassle. Maybe Autodesk will give more options to ceiling objects in the future, but in the meantime, this method appears to provide the best and most accurate result with minimal tradeoffs. Of course we shall see. If anyone else has had success in similar cases let me know!



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