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Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:59:09 AM | Current view template

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Hi,

 

Is there a way to see which view template I am in for current view? This is required specifically for a model received/modeled by others.

 

Thanks.

 


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Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:58:48 PM | gprakash

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Quoting gprakash from 2011-01-17 05:59:09

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Hi,

 

Is there a way to see which view template I am in for current view? This is required specifically for a model received/modeled by others.

 

Thanks.

 

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Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:17:43 PM | Current view template

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That response is not correct, you can have a different view template applied than the Default template that is shown in the properties. I have applied custom wall section templates to a number of views, but the default listing in properties still reports a different view template which is NOT applied.

 I would also like to know how to get an accurate report of the currently applied view template.

 Using R 2011


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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31:02 AM | Current view template

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Thanks for your reply Coreed,

 

You are suggesting that in View properties, the parameter value for Default view template is the current view template. I agree with this for a new view/model and as far as the View template is not overrided or a new view template is  not applied to the current view.

 

For example, in my current plan view, the default view template is 'structural framing plan'. I want a plan view to show only foundations and i create a new view template named 'Foundation only' with corresponding changes to the visibility graphics. I apply this new view template to the current view which now shows only the foundations.

 

Now the 'Default View Template' in the view properties still shows 'structural framing plan'.

 

If an other user opens my model, how will he be able to guess which template was used for the foundation plan?

 

Thanks for any replies.


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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:00:52 PM | Current view template

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You can only guess .... I believe that view templates are meant for multiple views that must be shown the same way.  Otherwise, a template only gets you started but VG and PG settings might  be (are often) changed and the template is no longer valid.

 

If you want to always use a template for a view, then it should be assigned to the view.  Then you update the view by applying default view template.  (REVIT really screwed up on their terminology here because DEFAULT is assigned.)  

 

DON'T ASSIGN a view template if you don't want it applied later.


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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:14:42 PM | Current view template

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My question still stands and it seems so simple that I must just be missing something obvious. How do we find out what view template is applied to a view? With every other entity in revit, we can get a report of all important properties, I just have a hard time thinking that the currently applied view template name is not available to see. I know I can always re-apply the template i want to the view, but there certainly should be a quick way to see what is already applied.

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:19:59 PM | Current view template

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As I said, if it is not assigned, it doesn't matter.  If you want a view template from that view, then make one - that tool is available.

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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:43:49 PM | Current view template

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I do have a template assigned to every view in my project.

What I'm asking is very simple, maybe too simple, but how do I get revit to report to me which template is currently assigned to a given view? What I want is exactly like clicking on an annotation line and looking at the properties to see which line style is assigned to the line.


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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:16:20 PM | Current view template

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THIS IS VERY SIMPLE!

 

If there is no assigned view template THEN THERE IS NOTHING TO READ!  Otherwise the assigned view template is listed in the view properties and you can read that.  Click on the view in the browser and the properties are listed!


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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:37:52 PM | Current view template

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As I said, I have a view template assigned to each and every view.

The view I'm looking at has the view template "found wall section" applied to it, and it indeed has all the display properties of that custom template, so I know it applied properlly.

So if i had forgotten which one was applied, or another employee would like to know which template is in use on this view, there doesn't seem to be a way to select that view and see "found wall section" displayed as the assigned template to this view.

BTW, this template was applied by having the view open then selecting View>View Templates>Apply Template to Current View, then selecting the desired template. I'm not referring to the default template selection. Even though what I applied is not the default, Revit does know which template I applied, its just very odd that it is incapable of reporting that selection anywhere in the properties.

 You can look at the properties of the view all day in the browser and it will not report the assigned view template.


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Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:48:45 PM | Current view template

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As I stated earlier - Revit screwed this up! 

View Properties:  Default View Template .... Assign a view template and this property will now contain the assigned view template name.  Revit should have called it assigned.  So when you apply a view template, you can choose any view template or you can choose "DEFAULT" which is really the assigned view template if there is one (Otherwise it does nothing). 

 

And if you assigned it....it will show up under "DEFAULT VIEW TEMPLATE"

 

Do you understand now?


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Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:30:48 AM | Current view template

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Thanks for your responses. Role of the 'Default View Template' is clearly explained. No more questions on that from my side.

 

If i receive an incomplete model containing some 48 views created with 35 different view templates (just assuming!) with a request that i need to complete the model with few more views without disturbing the discipline of the existing views, how can i proceed?

And i do not want to create 35 more new templates using the option 'Create template from current view' which will flock the view template table. (But is this the only option available now?)

 

Thanks.



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Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:34:05 PM | Current view template

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35 view templates is crazy....

Your choices -

  1. The original templates should have been named logically so that you can find the correct one to use... if not - maybe you might want to rename them so like "Interior room elevation 1/8" ....
  2. You can find a similar view and use the view template that was assigned to that view.... and assign it to yours
  3. You can create a template from a view that was not templated - in this case assign it to the existing and your new view.

We prefer to not assign view templates to unique (one of a kind) views.  But this means the users must recognize this and always leave the view in a correct format.  

 

Of course this is a problem with templated views too.  The user may find that he wants to turn on/off a category in the view he is editing but WATCH OUT!  This view has a template so either the user changes the template and makes sure that does not affect any views using that template or he now must remove that assigned template from this one view.

BTW - I have not tried this but the template might be schedulable.

One habit, to get your users used to, is not to use working views for most model work rather than a sheet view.  For plans and a few other views, we encourage our users to create a seperate "<person's name> plan view" placed in a working folder where they can modify VG, add personal working notes - dimensions - redlines to their hearts content.


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