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Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 5:14:20 PM | Soffit Issues

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Is anyone having issues with creating soffits in a room? Or have any work arounds to make them appear correctly? We have been trying to create soffits in a medical lab. Currently we are creating our soffit walls and then adding a dropped gb ceiling at the correct height. Then we join the geometries together. This results in the structure "layers" of the wall joining but not the finish "layers". Which causes the ceiling plans to show a blank area where the soffit wall is shown in RCP and not a solid hatch over the entire area. We have tried to also extending the cieling into the core. We have also tried bringing the soffit walls down to the ceiling, but this results in the interior elevations showing multiple lines in an Interior Elevation view. Other things we have tried included altering the vertical structure so that the GB physically wraps the corner, this resulted in an error that the core must contain a non-membrane layer despite the fact that there were no membrane layers used, and painting the correct finish on the bottom of the wall, the pattern would not show up in any view, reguardless of scale. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 10:50:17 PM | RE: Soffit Issues

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A picture is worth a thousand words... Although you have explained it very thoroughly, i'm still having trouble getting my head around what you mean by the blank area. Post a screenshot or even a project file of a soffit and wall example with all other information purged.

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Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 1:01:05 AM | RE: Soffit Issues

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I am having soffit issues as well. I am just trying to do a perimeter soffit around a room. So basically I want the soffit around the perimeter lower than the center. How do you do this? I have tried creating two different height ceilings but I can not join there geometries as they do not intersect in the "Z" axis. Any suggestions would save me a great deal of time. Thanks

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Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 3:21:40 AM | RE: Soffit Issues

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Bhamels, Unfortunately there isn't an automatic bulkhead/ceiling trimmer tool built into revit the places and infilling element. You would need to create a special wall type then trace around your ceiling boundary and attach the wall base to the lower ceiling and the top to the upper ceiling. HTH.

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Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 1:08:18 AM | Soffit Issues

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Mr. Spot, I think what archdan is trying to say about blank space is this gap that also appears in my soffits (look at the picture...)

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Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 12:46:54 AM | Soffit Issues

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Apologies for the delayed reply... I've been on my honeymoon Puh

 

You can get around this by not using the attach bottom option on the wall and instead overlapping the wall and the ceiling then using the join geometry to clean up the join.  It should then appear as you require.

 

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Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 3:57:29 AM | Soffit Issues

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No luck Mr. Spot, the best I can do is overlaping them and aligning to the gypsum board, but when I join them they get back the way they are at the pic. Thanks anyway and CONGRATS! ...btw if you have time please stop to see my other threads I posted, spacially the one with the shadow trouble.

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Thu, May 17, 2007 at 8:40:22 PM | Soffit Issues

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One thing that Mr. spot forgot to mention is that the gyp board on the ceiling and the joining soffit wall has to be the exact same material in revit.  I had the same aforementioned problem with the gyp. bd. not joining in section and showing unneccessary lines in elevations until I made the materials the same.

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Fri, May 18, 2007 at 3:09:30 AM | Soffit Issues

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Sorry i lost this post and never saw that latest comment.

Providing the gyprock is say layer 4 or 5 and the furring channel is layer 2 or 3, when joined they should cleanup fine...


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Wed, Sep 5, 2007 at 3:43:35 PM | Soffit Issues

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I have still found difficulty with forging a clean join of finish materials, particularly when the structural layers are different.  I found that by aligning the edge of ceiling with the insisde face of Gyp Board, the finishes join nicely.

Thanks for all you input, these threads make this learning process so much faster.


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Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 7:28:25 PM | Soffit Issues

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Hi,

I am fairly new to Revit 2009. I am working on my first projects.

 I search for a link to making ceiling soffits and it brought me to this forum thread from 2005.

 I am having great difficulty in making my ceiling soffits. I have tried making two different ceilings and then attaching walls....but...in section it really doesn't look like the way it is truly built.

 Any guides, tutorials, how to, and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:31:01 PM | Soffit Issues

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can you provide a sketch of the type of ceiling soffits conditions you are trying to create?

 


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Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:47:49 PM | Soffit Issues

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How do I send a sketch? Attach a pdf to the reply ?....not sure how to do that. 

The type of soffit I am refering to is a typical soffit that the mechanical duct runs through. Usually 8 feet high in most cases. Basically a box.


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Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:37:53 AM | Soffit Issues

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You can send a sketch by printing as a PDF, but much quicker to 'print screen' open paint (or similar), paste and save.

You can manipulate this join by unlocking the layers in the wall part.  The first image shows what I suspect is your problem.  Go to the wall properties and edit structure, check the preview and set it to section.  Click modify and unlock one of the layers (image 2).  You can now pull down these layers independently (image 3).



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