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Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:54:01 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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Hi,

I have a problem with line weights in detail components reverting to the revit standard after I've updated them to our office line weights.

I've been opening the detail components in the families editor, importing the office line weights using the "transfer project standards" tool, then re-saving them. However, if I close out of the family, then reopen it, the line weights have reverted to the original revit standard line weights. Does anyone know why this might be happening?

Thanks

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Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:05:15 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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When you edit the standard and save it, do you also re-load that into the project?  Project and library are two different locations.  Detail components already loaded into a project or template are loaded.... they are not linked.

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Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:10:52 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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Hey, thanks... here's some more details...

The office line weights I'm using are quite new, so many of our standard detail components have the old line weight settings. The project I'm currently working on has the correct office line weight settings. The procedure I'm following is:

1. Load family (the detail component) into project

2. Edit family - open detail component in family editor, and use "transfer project standards" to import line weights from another family that has the correct line weights. 

3. save family (replacing the existing family file)

4. load into project

5. close family

Now, if i highlight the family in the project and click "edit family" again, it opens and has the old line weight settings. 

 


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Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:26:18 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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When you say lineweight settings I believe you don't understand the process.  All family "line" settings in Revit are controlled through category object styles.  As an example, lets talk about doors.  Doors have about 8 different sub category settings that can be assigned to objects in the family but then controlled in the model.  For instance glass.  When you model glass in a door and assign that solid to glass sub-category it is shown in the family by the lineweight settings in the family.  Revit doesn't really care what that setting is though unless that sub-category doesn't yet exist in the model.  If it is a new sub-category, then Revit will use the lineweight setting in the family for this object and every new object that has this sub-category - otherwise it uses the sub-category settings that exist in the model.

 

In other words, the project "RULES" .  No matter how often it is changed in the family, once loaded / set in the project - the project governs.  This is true for family materials as well.

 

Hope this helps you.



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Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:54:08 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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I have to add something here that may help you. 

 

If you have something special that you don't want controlled by an existing category / sub-category, then add a new sub-category in the family editor.  (MUST BE SMART ABOUT THIS)  We do this to all of our doors\ families adding a new sub-category called threshold.  The visiblity of that threshold can now be controlled in plan views and is set by a "has a threshold" y/n shared parameter in the family.


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Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 3:53:45 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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Well, there a definitely a lot of things I still don't understand in revit! It does appear that my issue is something to do with the project settings as you suggest:

When I open a family independently (via open/open family), the family will have the correct office line weight settings that I previously imported and saved in that family.

Whereas, when I open a family by highlighting it within the project and clicking the "edit family" tool, the family opens with the incorrect line weights (even though the project has the correct line weights). 

(by the way, when I'm talking about line weight settings, I'm referring to the setting in the attached image)

Anyway, I'm still stumped... thanks for your help though



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Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:05:53 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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Although that chart is available in the family, it is not controled by the family.  You will find a similar chart in the project and as I said, "...the project RULES".

 

If you are trying to use your CAD brain here - DON'T!   This Revit lineweight chart is a translator to determine what physical pen to use for each pen number at different view scales.   Every item in Revit is controlled by pen line weight number as set in object styles which is then modified through this chart according to individual view scale.  (The category or sub-category lineweight can be altered in any view through VG or for individual elements, it can be over-ridden in any view by element.)

 

Confused - don't be... just flush your brain of all your CAD rules.  The sooner you can do that, the easier this all becomes.


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Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:50:16 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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Ive had the same problems with details. I found this guys solution to be a little more helpful. (With what I needed anyways).

 http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=118513

 


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Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:37:02 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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Does anyone know if there is anyway to change the lineweight of text in Revit 2009 other than just clicking on the bold tab?

 


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Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:10:38 PM | Line weights reverting to standard

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Text in Revit is not a pen setting.  Text is controlled by the TrueType Font and then you can bold it.  If you want heavier text, use a heavier font.  For instance, if you are using the ariel font, look at using the ariel bold font instead. 

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