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Dianthier

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OK I have a real head scratcher.

I am working in Revit Arch 2010. Using Windows XP, 64bit. I have all service packs loaded and am up to date on any patches.

I want to print all my sheets using Vector Processing as the lines come out cleaner. I am printing to PDF. This works great for all but one sheet. I have two RCPs, the 2nd level prints out fine, but when I do the 3rd level half of the ceilings disappear! If I use Raster Processing the ceilings are all there, but it's not as clean looking as Vector.

I have selected all the ceilings there is no difference whatsoever. It's not adobe as when I do a preview I can see there are ceilings missing. But I have tried printing to the printer, and printing as a PLT with the same results. Missing ceilings!!!

I have shut down Revit and restarted the computer. I haven't yet tried it on another computer

Here are screen shots of what is happening. Does anyone have a clue as to why this one sheet is doing this???

Thanks - Diane 

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Dianthier

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I got my co-worker to open the project up and he is having the same problem. But he found if you move any one of the boundary lines off the wall about an inch it will print! WTF! I don't want my boundary to be an inch off a wall, this is not a viable option but WHY WHY WHY is it doing this??

All the walls are the same as well.

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EricLind

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It appears to me that when printing with vector processing, objects that are underneath will appear on top if they were created after the object on top.  In other words, the latest object created will be the object showing on top.  This is very frustrating! 

Does anyone know how to tell Revit which objects to display on top without copying and pasting a new object?

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Not sure what you are saying here.  Detail objects are always on top of model objects.  No choice here. 

In families. there is an order of detail elements according to placement time.  If you place a masking region, you can add detail lines over it.  If you place the lines then the masking region, the region will hide the lines even though they show in the family.  So it is important to pay attention here.

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EricLind

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I should have clarified: when dealing with model objects in a wireframe view, if those objects have surface hatches, whether or not they apear "over" other objects depends on the order in which they were created.

An object with a solid suface hatch will completely mask any other object that was created earlier (in wireframe mode)

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Was any solution ever found for this? We have had a very similar issue with Revit Structure 2013 inconsistently plotting beams in plan view in vector printing mode. Setting to raster makes the beams show up, but causes other issues. For instance, right now, a gridline, a column, and a beam are all aligned correctly in the model and display correctly on screen. Going to a print preview, the beams on the entire plan are gone in vector mode. Setting to raster, the beams display, but the grid now appears to be shifted off the centerline of the beam and column when it's not. Any ideas? This is the newest thread I've found dealing with similar issues. Everything else I came across was from back in 2006, 2008, and so on. But surely someone else is having similar problems???

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Be aware that print preview does not always reflect how the view prints.  Print it.

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mccoolj

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Yeah, we did print it. It didn't look as far off on the actual print as it did on print preview, but still not centered. However, we rarely print out drawings anymore except for checking/redlining in house. Most of our stuff goes out as pdf, and that has the very frustrating issue of all the beams on a level not showing up in vector mode. Plotting from the pdf generated from a raster made the gridline and beam and column plot correctly aligned, but is there any workaround for that so that we could simply print everything vector like we do most of the time? I guess Eric's explanation of drawing order would explain the seeming randomness of it, since we can't remember what particular element was created first this late in a project. But is there any combination of V/G settings or properties or anything that will correct it?

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monfire

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hello!

i'm once again searching for a fix for this issue. we also did the workaround with raster processing till now.

has someone allready found a way to actually solve the issue and be able to vector print?

regards, martin

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monfire,

Start a new thread with your exact question and include what Revit / Revit updates and maybe an image of your problem.

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