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Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:30:19 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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I have a floor plan for an elementary school that is too big to fit on one sheet, so I have the plan divided into 5 sections as dependent views.  All the section marks and elevation marks are in the parent view and show up in the dependent views... but, I have turned the tails off in the parent view, yet they continue to show up in the dependent view.  Why is that?  Isn't a dependent view supposed to be just that?  Dependent on another view. 

Am I missing something?


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Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:14:57 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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You can specify visibility and graphic overrides to individual elements on a per-view basis.  You can read about what rules are applied to dependent views in your HELP.
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Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:28:43 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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WWHub, I did read the HELP.  I don't see the point of having a Dependent view if it is not truly dependent.  If I have a parent floor plan and I'm worknig in that plan, I would think the changes that I make to that plan would carry over to the dependent views.  So if I alter the style of the section mark in the parent view, I also have to make the same adjustment in the dependent view? 

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Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:07:33 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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Well then I guess your perfect.  I know that I often have to clean up section cuts and other minor things that don't work well where I have split up the drawing but you must never have run across that problem.

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Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:15:29 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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Well, of course.  That's exactly what I said right?  All I am asking is whether it is possible to have the changes that I made in the parent view show up the same way in the dependent view?  If I turn all the tails off in my sections in the parent view, can I get the dependent views to look that same way without having to change them in each of the dependent views separately?

I never claimed to be perfect.


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Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:42:24 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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As I posted:

"You can specify visibility and graphic overrides to individual elements on a per-view basis.  You can read about what rules are applied to dependent views in your HELP.

Duplicate Dependent Views"
 
Model elements - annotations ... will all stay in same locations BUT ..."You can specify visibility and graphic overrides to individual elements on a per-view basis."  So once the dependent view is created ... you can modify per view. If you want to modify only one time - do it in what will be the parent and then make your dependent views.  Anything newly added - get that - ADDED an or DELETED will be the same in all views no matter what view they are added or deleted in. ... BUT VISIBILITY AND GRAPHIC OVERRIDES ARE VIEW INDEPENDENT

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Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:00:00 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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In my experience with dependent views, most of the annotation objects like tags, dims, etc will be dependent just like you want them to be.  There are a few things that can be separately controlled, including section heads.  The extent/stretchi-ness of section heads, and the placementof callout bugs are also independently controlable.  There are likely a few other items that remain view specific (even in dependent views), but I can't remember them all right now.  Anyway, as a result, whenever I am working on general drawing legibility with annotation objects, I always work in the views that actually appear on a sheet- the most direct way is to just open the sheets and activate the view you want.  Then if you do any stretching of section heads, etc, you can be confident that what-you-see-is-what-you-get when it is time to print.

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Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:29:54 AM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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Does any one experienced part plans hatching... I mean if we have 8 part plans with 8 dependent views(100 scale) with match line and one main overall plan with 500 scale. the part plans are created with scopes boxes 8Nos. Question is if I am issuing Part-5 view i would like to hatch the overlapped area of Part 4&6 with hatching to emphasis that this sheet represent only for part-5. Tried with making a family with 8 Zones individual family by using Detail metric template and filled region and load to the project (noticed that if we create as full all Parts Family giving YES/NO parameters for 8 parts) will not work to the dependent views as if you selected Part-5 then all other dependent views get changed as part 5 Does anyone has the better option... appreciate for your help


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Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 3:11:23 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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Seperate hatch areas.


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Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 3:19:36 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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I DID 8 FAMILIES REPRESENTING EACH ZONE AND LOADED INTO MODEL THEN HIDE IN THE PARTICULAR PART PLANS

ANY OTHER SMART WAY ? APPRECIATE FOR YOUR HELP


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Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 4:02:18 PM | Dependent views not the same as Parent view...

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Seperate families is not 'smart' since you set everything.   Families here are a problem - simple hatches are far better because they are annotative and can be turned on/off in each dependent view.


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