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Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:50:00 PM | New to Revit - First impressions LOVING IT ... but ..

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Hi all

 The names Nathan and I'm a architectural draftsperson from Australia. I've been learning Revit for a couple of weeks now and am convinced this is software is going to make my job alot easier and more enjoyable (than AC).

 Saw this forum on the net and I decided to join because it seems to have a lot better content than Autodesk Seek IMO.

 The only thing that is frustrating me about the software is doors, specifically sliding doors and bifold (or panel) doors.

 I have been having trouble finding a set that can meet all my needs ie 

 

- all slide or fold 1 way

- have 3 4 panels

- are  easily adjustable (both hieght and width)

- that are  simply drawn - Some of the sliding doors show so much detail like tracks and frames, its hard to make out its a sliding door in plan view).

- are glass framed with wood or metal 

 

 Could anyone recommend any Revit families that fit this description or would I have to learn how to make these myself?

 

Thanks for the advice

 

Nathan 


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Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:44:29 AM | New to Revit - First impressions LOVING IT ... but ..

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if you are planning to learn more about revit and master the program completly you should be able to make those on your own,

it has more advantage then taking someone else there doors because everybody uses and needs different parameters en grafics.

 


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Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:54:15 AM | New to Revit - First impressions LOVING IT ... but ..

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Hi Nathan, welcome to revit and revit city

glad you're enjoy it

with your door the great thing about revit is the fact that it''s parametric, so you can make the door you want

If you choose new > family > metric dooryou can a blank template to crete yourself a door

If you need help creting the rule to create your family post a link on here with your family file or images and we'll be happy to help but as a rough starter follow this:

 

create a metric door family and make press 'types' on your ribbon and set the height and width to what you want.

draw 3 door panels using solid extrusion and set them within your door frame on a slight offset of each other (as shwon in image)

with them all a dimension and label as parameter and name them something like 'panel gap from frame 1' (as imaged)then you can save it and use it in your model

you can make these rules as complex as you like, but this is a simple way to start you off, hope that helps



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Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:16:50 AM | New to Revit - First impressions LOVING IT ... but ..

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Hi 

Thanks to you guys I finally decided to push myself to learn how to do it myself and I'm so glad I did. Here is what I came up with. It is a very simple adjustable sliding door. I am just having one problem.

 In plan view I would like the door to be about slightly opened as shown in the attached PDF. I have taken the first couple of steps to do like hiding the 3d panel doors from the plan/rcp views and I have created some model lines in the door (cut) layer. This can be seen on the Ref view in the RFA file.

 The next step really is to get the size of the model lines to adjust in proportion to the width of the opening. So when the door width is increased or decreased the panels will adjust proportionally. This is something I do not know how to do.

I really appreciate your help!

Thanks 



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Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:54:08 AM | New to Revit - First impressions LOVING IT ... but ..

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I see that you have the symbolic door panels dimensioned and locked. Instead of locking the dimensions, make a new parameter (Panel Width, or something like that) and in Types, make the Panel Width formula "Width / 4" (no quotes). You will also need to lock down one end of the panel or the other, but there are a few different ways to do that. You could even tie them to a parameter so you can control how far the panels are opened.

 

One other thing I saw is that your dimension parameters are all instance parameters. Is there any reason that you are not using type instead of instance?


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Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:13:34 AM | New to Revit - First impressions LOVING IT ... but ..

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Hi TKennedy

 Thanks for the tip. One problem when input that formula (without the quotations of course) it gives me this error message.

 

Instance Parameters can't be used in Type Parameter formulas.

Type Parameter "Panel" is driven by Instance Parameter(s): "Rough Width".

 

I tried both 'Width / 4' and 'Rough Width / 4'. Don't really know what went wrong there.

Also with the point you made a bout making the height and width parameters instance and not type. the work I do different time to time and there is no real set door size I use.

Is there any downsides to using instance instead of type?


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