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Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:24:55 AM | unexplained failure of dormer walls to join at corner

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please help!  notice the corner of the dormer wall is not meeting, even though in plan view i have connected the walls.  the corners in plan view are not meeting either although the location line shows that the two walls are attached.   the wall that goes up to the front face of the shed dormer roof is a two story wall attached to the dormer roof, and the side dormer wall is attached at the base and the top to the main roof and the dormer roof. 

 thank you in advance for help..



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Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:24:36 PM | unexplained failure of dormer walls to join at corner

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The walls are trying to attach to both roofs.  Edit the lower roof so that it follows the outside of the dormer wall.

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Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:40:26 PM | unexplained failure of dormer walls to join at corner

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Thank you.  If the lower roof follows the outside of the dormer wall, then what would I attach the base of the dormer wall to?  Right now the base is attached to the lower roof.

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Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:54:54 PM | unexplained failure of dormer walls to join at corner

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One way would be to edit the profile of the  wall to follow the roof line.

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Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:50:52 PM | unexplained failure of dormer walls to join at corner

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Thanks, that is the look I am trying to get!  Did you sketch the lower roof outside of the dormer wall as you suggested?  If so, how did you get the eave to extend beyond the outer edge of the dormer wall to create the "wrapped" look?  Did you sketch the lower roof so it extends beyond the dormer wall at the eave and then jogs in and traces the outer edge of the dormer wall?

 If this is the approach, how will the interior render since the dormer wall is not attached to the lower roof?

 I was able to get the corners to meet by drawing a wall on top of the other wall, but this screws up the vertical siding pattern I am using and puts a horizontal line in the rendering - not ideal.  See attached..

 



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Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:52:54 PM | unexplained failure of dormer walls to join at corner

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Sorry, took the wrong image in prior post..

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Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:06:19 AM | unexplained failure of dormer walls to join at corner

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Yes, this is how I achieved the wrapped look.  You will be able to see the roof wall join on the inside, underside of ceiling, but considering how this would be constructed in real life, the roof would butt up against the wall and not support it (would there not be a beam here?).  By attaching the wall to the roof, as you first tried you would see the join line in the wall on the inside.  This could be overcome by putting in a separate ceiling, as would happen in real life and would hide the wall support system (portal frame?).

What you have done in your image can also work.  You can join the walls so that the join line will not show.  You can then move the siding lines (or align) to make it look like one wall.  The wall to roof junction would still be seen on the inside of the dormer wall though.


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Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:35:50 AM | unexplained failure of dormer walls to join at corner

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Excellent, both techniques work.  I ended up keeping the dormer wall attached to the roof, joining the two walls that make up the face of the house, and aligning the vertical siding with the align tool.  I also had to use the linework tool to make the horizontal line between the two walls invisible.

 Thank you for your help!


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Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:22:31 PM | unexplained failure of dormer walls to join at corner

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All you would have had to do was split your wall vertically where your wall turns above.   This is just like a wall that has a sketch on it.  Because it joins another wall below, it will not cleanup right to the wall above.

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