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Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:33:26 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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Hello everyone,

 I am relatively new to Revit and was wondering what the easiest way to add exterior trim around windows was. Would you just draw a mass around the windows?

 Any help would be appreciated.

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Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:50:01 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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My current thought is to creat a seperat family that is the trim and place it that way.  You can then group your window and place it quicker by placing the group. 

Another way is add the trim in the window family but I am going away from that idea now.  

A third option is to do it as an in-place family.

 

I prefer the first that way you can have the same window with multiple trim (of course you could embed that family in the window family and add a parameter to change it but that get more comlex).  Also doing it this way allows you to control what the trim does to the wall.  For examle if it was a brick sill you can make it cut the wall easier than you could if you did it the other methods. Plus this way keeps your window family cleaner and allows you to change the trim quicker.


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Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:54:51 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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Hi, you can create that in the several ways: you create (in project) a "in-place" with "Solid Sweep" around the window, or, you can edit that family (window) and create that (that's what i recommend), or you can create a family "Generic Model Face based"....

 OOPS, "Blake" was faster than me...

 



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Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:41:23 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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I too am new to Revit as well.  I come from the Vertex BD software.  In that i could make up trim sets and attach them to teh window.  they took on the parameters of the window.  I could not cut siding whice was importenat to make the model accurate.  I am curious if you have an example of what you were talking about in item #1.  It sounds like that is exactly what I am looking for.

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Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:03:15 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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What? "create (in project) a "in-place" with "Solid Sweep" around the window"???

 


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Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:46:26 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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I prefer the first that way you can have the same window with multiple trim (of course you could embed that family in the window family and add a parameter to change it but that get more comlex).  Also doing it this way allows you to control what the trim does to the wall.  For examle if it was a brick sill you can make it cut the wall easier than you could if you did it the other methods. Plus this way keeps your window family cleaner and allows you to change the trim quicker.

This is the method I was referring to.  It looks like it has the most control.  Can these be saved as a family?


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Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:01:03 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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I would agree with Typhoon and do it in the window family.  The attacehd image has depth, width and material parameters, so no further work is required once the windows have been placed.

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Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:22:18 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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That looks great.  Is that applied after the the window is?  Can that trim cut the siding?  I will need something that can cut the brick show that the trim will be applied to the sheathing not on top of the brick. Sorry for being thick about this.  Is there something i can read to better understand how this functions work?  Thank you for your assistance.

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Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:33:44 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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You can create that trim in the FAMILY of that window, you can edit the family, create a couple of ref. planes, dimension and put parameters (label the dimensions), so in this way you have lenght, width, thickness and so one, about "Can that trim cut the siding?  I will need something that can cut the brick show that the trim will be applied to the sheathing not on top of the brick." - i think i'm not understand what are you talking about, can you put some images (3d) about this???

 


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Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:10:22 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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You can make it cut the brick when you make it in the window family.  What you have to do is delete the wall opening and the remake it as a void.  (You cannot have a wall opening and a void cut the same obect in a family but you can have to voids do that.)  It is a more complicated and then not very easy to have different trim types around the same window.  My suggestion is still to have a seperate window and trim family that way you can match multiple trims with the same window.  Also the trim will cut the wall that way.  It is easy enough to make them a group in the model and place them multiple times.

 One other thing.  If you are using a structural consultant that is using revit, when they copy/monitor your wall the opening function takes the extend of the family not the actually wall opening.  So if you had the trim in the window family it was show the opening in the structural model all the way to the extend of the trim.  Though I would not advise you structural guys not to copy monitor openings but place there own openings because of this fact, it gets more complicated with door swings.

 

But in the end I have done it wall three ways on different projects and I have decided that we will be using the seperate window and trim family.  It is just alot easier to do control if you have many different windows and similar trim or if you have many different trims and one window.  Also the trim will not cut the wall any other way.


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Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:02:05 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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Hello, After reading this thread I am considering separating the window and trim families.  However I am just curious what family category did you end up placing the trim under?  Also do you still think this is the best practice?  I have several different trim packages that are standard in my company and most of the time there are more than one being used in the project at a time.  So I end up with the same window but two different family types because of the trim which is not good when it comes to the window schedule.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

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Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:03:48 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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If you have the trim as a seperated family, I would suggest you nest it in and create a yes/no (use instance parameter) of each trim to  control each family visibility. Then you should not have problem setting them (if you have 3 or 4 types of trims in the same family) into different types.

The only down side is that the family can get pretty heavier.

 


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Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:23:29 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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I know this is an older thread, but in any case I would issue a warning regarding faced based, non-nested, trim families. If you mirror them as part of a wing of a building, and especially if the wings are at angles to one another, the mirrored trim becomes worthless. The mirrored families maitain the original orientation and angle when it mirrors. Nesting face based trim famiies into the window family eliminates the mirrioring issue, but this does't apply for window trims and other trim families that can't be nested. Wall based trims have there own quirks as well.



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Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:17:08 PM | Exterior Window Trim

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Hi Friends, Is there a good movie about creating this trim in family. Thanks


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