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how do i stop walls & concrete columns murging when joint at an angle?
how do you clean up the joint to make them flush?
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Iif you want that the walls and the columns appear united you must use architectural columns. If you want that the walls and columns appear like separated objects, you must use structural columns.
Sorry for my poor english, it's not my first language.
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Or 'unjoin' one from other element, but previous is better ...
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With the columns in our office i've setup them up to show a precut detail component embedded into the family and also set them to not automatically join. This ensures all my columns always look the same.
To do this. Open the column family go to its family category and parameters and untick automatically join and tick show precut.
Then you just need to embed a detail component to represent the plan view, make sure to make it parametric like you column.
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I've created a column with an embedded 2d detail component and I've added a masking region to the column family to make the column cut the wall as displayed in the plan view in the attached file. Is there any way to achieve this cut in a 3d view too without having to add a wall reveal? Is there a way of adding a 3d masking region to the column?
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" ...I've added a masking region to the column family to make the column cut the wall " - There are Two kinds of columns in Revit, Architectural column and Structural column, one cut the wall, the other don't, what did you use????
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hi typhoon, only problem is that its not always possible to use the structural column as the structural engineer sometimes controls them and we just use the architectural coloumn and then copy monitor them.
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King? I don't understand. If the strutural uses a structural column, you should be able to copy/monitor his and use it. No reason to add your own. That's the copy part of copy/monitor. It allows you to have something you can control as well as the engineer. Then if you change it ... it shows up to him .... that's the monitor part on his end. The copy/monitor process can work both ways depending on who first creates the element. Typically we let the engineers own the columns but we own the walls.
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I find the graphical display of structural columns a bit unreliable and that's why I'm trying this approach with architectural columns instead. Sometimes a structural column cuts a wall and sometimes it doesn't. Any idea why? Is there any way to update a structural column that doesn't cut the wall it is intersecting without having to remove the column and re-creating a similar one in the same position?
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hi wwhub as usual i was trying to explain myself with not enough detail. in some projects that have workflows that we may not of set up or had enough or a say in. it is the practice when adding columns that arctitects only add architectual columns and then the structural engineer decides if they are structural, and then they get changed, then the copy monitor process starts as normal. so it may be bad project managment but it would be helpfull to have the architectural columns to be able to cut geomotry. in my opionion if the more options (within reason) the better. if its technically possible it would be nice is what i believe. if one column can cut geometry and one can join why not but in the ability for both to cut & join. this is no major problem for us, more of a whish list. so i see what dougie is on about thanks as always though for the input from everyone.
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