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Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:13:59 PM | local file saving location

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Hi everybody,

I am trying to set up an office procedure for revit use. Where do you guys save the local files? to the server? or lcoal computer stations? I know server might cause a big slowdown problem but dont you think it is safer?

Please let me know if you guys ever experienced problems or any suggestions about saving local.

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Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:51:35 PM | local file saving location

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um local files are supposed to be on your local machine. central files go on the server.  thats just the way it is.  local files are disposable. 

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Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:08:25 PM | local file saving location

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I agree with lunchtray.

Our firm has a folder specifically designated for CAD/Revit files on everyone's C:\ drive.


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Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:07:16 PM | local file saving location

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Thank you guys, I guess we will do the same. i heard that once you have the locel file in your c drive, even the person doesnt relinquish the file you can log on to his computer and open the c drive file and relinquish it.

 


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Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:11:49 PM | local file saving location

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Is there some sort of problem that you are having that you are trying to solve?  Local files go on your local machine. Central files go on a server.  If people don't do what they are supposed to there can be problems.  I would read the revit help files and do the tutorials before writing up a company standards document.

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Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:26:58 PM | local file saving location

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 SAFER?!?!

For safety, speed and mental health reasons, keep local files IN local machines. Central file goes in the server. Otherwise you will generate huge traffic in the network accesing all the local files and then the central, it will slow you down. Besides work in local at all times!

If you have EVERYTHING in the server and for some reason you loose the server information, you loose it all! (how about that!) If you have local files spread throughout the office network you can bring the central back to life from any local file. (It is like having multiple backups everywhere!)


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Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:48:27 PM | local file saving location

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I get the feeling that some potential issue was brought up in a conversation at their firm.

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Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:53:38 PM | local file saving location

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No actually office has no idea. I have been searching on the internet and some people saves their local file to the common server. One folder for central, other folder for local files. if somebody has the local file in the c drive and did worked on the local files and incase of his/her computer crashes, again the same problem.

However, i understand all of your point and makes sense. I guess local should go local Smile


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Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:05:47 PM | local file saving location

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Well if your only concern is the local file getting corrupted then I wouldn't worry.  A computer locking up is only going to lose the work that was unsaved, something that having it on the server wouldn't fix anyway.  If the file became corrupted and the user needed to relinquish, they could just make a new file and then relinquish.  Some people make new local files twice a day.  They aren't needed to be backed up.  They are fully disposable.  I get rid of mine in the morning and make new ones.  Having a local file solves a lot of network speed problems and other things.  Defeating this is not going to help anything.

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Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:12:06 PM | local file saving location

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I want to stress the point that emgeeo brought up... depending on your network setup, your individual users may have a network My Documents folder.  Be sure you know how the user structure is set up in your office before you choose a local location for your revit files.  C:\revitfoldernamehere\ is my suggestion on this as well.

 

If you are looking to help prevent/minimize file corruption, have everyone set local saves to a maximum of every 30 minutes with central saves to a maximum of every hour.  If someone has a relinquish problem, the solution is very simple:  Have everyone close out of the model, open the central, detach, resave as central, users remake local file.  Should take less than 5 minutes on even the largest revit files if your network was created sometime in the last decade.

 

You can also cheat by logging into a instance of revit as the user that has not relinquished their worksets.  Relinquish, save to central.  The user that didn't follow company policy on relinquishing worksets learns their lesson the next time they try to connecto to the central file :D (ie: they have to recreate their local file).

 

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Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:23:38 PM | local file saving location

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In the KeyboardsShortcuts.txt in your revit folder there is a new command for 2009 listed under

menu:"Debug-Worksets-Kill Borrowings and Requests"

Has anyone tried it? It seems like it'll do the relinquishing trick. (I might be wrong)


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Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:24:29 PM | local file saving location

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Actually, Kill Borrowing and Requests sounds more like an auto deny button for edit requests.  Probably isn't but it sounds something more along those lines than a "steal all worksets" button.

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Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:10:42 AM | local file saving location

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sounds like someone who likes to sit on plastic trays has been burned by this in the past like I have.

I am still haunted by the words "I was just trying to save out backups like in CAD and it started acting funky so I tried to fix it." Let's just say that for a SINGLE project file this person had four central files...three of which were on their local machine...and five local files...two of which were on the network server. And they didn't think it was a problem until two days worth of work went missing.

 

But I digress, our office standard for opening a Revit file at ANY time is to make a new (and single) local EVERY time. 



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Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:31:03 AM | local file saving location

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or the famous complaint "it takes me 10 minutes to save to central, revit sucks"  where they added 100 jpg renderings captured to the file every hour for the last week, put their local in their personal storage on the server or didn't know that all families aren't supposed to be made as in-place.

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Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:18:14 PM | local file saving location

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Thanks to all for the valuable info. Another question is:

How often you guys create local files in c drive. Do you update them weekly, monthly? I heard that it is reducing the file size? Any comments?


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