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Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:23:23 AM | Horizontal Wall or Wrapping Floor

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Hello,

Once again I seek advice from the masters.  I'm using Revit Arch. 2008.  We are working a school project and we have a wall for the hallways with lockers embedded in it.  What we are doing is having the wall come up over the top of the lockers, than have a clearstory above with the glass more or less flush with the locer face to the underside of the ceiling, than a regular steel stud/gypsum wall up to the uderside of the floor above.  So far I've come up with this abomination with a wall to the locer top, than I made a floor with a wall assembly then made a curtain wall on top of the wall/floor thing, which I split up and made the top panel of the curtain into the regular wall assembly.  Obviously this is not a great solution and it's fairly difficult to work with.  As well I'm having problems where I can't get gypsum on the floor/wall thing to wrap at the ends, and I'm also having wrapping issues where the glass curtain wall meets the gypsum wall above it.  Finally, if I have to use a "curse" type of construction like this, can I make it into a family? or a group? or something so it is easier to use in the model?  I've attached a small sketch.  Any advice or alternate approach suggestions would be much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

 

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Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 1:08:26 PM | Horizontal Wall or Wrapping Floor

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I question the actual constructability of what you have shown in section.  How long is the row of lockers?  Is the window above the lockers continuous?  If so, it will need structural support and I don;t think the horizontal 'shelf' would be sufficient.  The reason I ask this is because it helps inform how to best contruct this in revit.  I would  assume you either have a horizontal tube below the window that spans from column to column in which case you would construct a curtainwall above the tube with the panels above the ceiling being a stud wall and the panels below being glazed.  You would then construct a typical stud wall behind the lockers.  Another option would be if you intend to support the window by a metal stud box beam then you would create a curtainwall with three zones, the bottom being stud wall, middle being glazed, and top being wall again.  I would then create openings in the wall and insert the lockers in the openings.

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Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 3:40:31 PM | Horizontal Wall or Wrapping Floor

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I question the actual constructability of what you have shown in section.  How long is the row of lockers?  Is the window above the lockers continuous?  If so, it will need structural support and I don;t think the horizontal 'shelf' would be sufficient.  The reason I ask this is because it helps inform how to best contruct this in revit.  I would  assume you either have a horizontal tube below the window that spans from column to column in which case you would construct a curtainwall above the tube with the panels above the ceiling being a stud wall and the panels below being glazed.  You would then construct a typical stud wall behind the lockers.  Another option would be if you intend to support the window by a metal stud box beam then you would create a curtainwall with three zones, the bottom being stud wall, middle being glazed, and top being wall again.  I would then create openings in the wall and insert the lockers in the openings.

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