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Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 2:52:08 PM | View range problems with framing plans

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I'm working on my first Revit project and am having a difficult time figuring out how to make my structural plans show the proper architectural floor plan below my framing.  Specifically, I want to show my second floor structure over the first floor plan.  I have tried to change the view range to seemingly every possible combination with no luck.  I also tried making the first floor plan an underlay. I have even attempted to create the second floor framing plan from the first floor level.  Nothing seems to work.  I find it hard to believe that there is no way to do this.  I figure there has to be something obvious I'm missing but I can't seem to figure out what it is.  Any ideas? Thanks!

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Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 3:13:28 PM | View range problems with framing plans

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The way I do this is as follows:

 

1.  Create a new level for "Top of Joists".

2.  Create a floor plan view for "Top of Joists".

3.  In View Properties,do the following:

    a.  Change Discipline to "Structural"

    b.  Change "View Range" so Top, Cut Plane, and Bottom are set to Associated Level (Top of Joists) and all three are set to 0'-0".

    c.  Change view depth level to Level Below (level 1) <or whatever your first floor is named>.  Make sure the offset is 0'-0".

 

Changing the Discipline to Structural is optional, but what it will do is make any walls that are not bearing display as half tone.

 

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Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 8:28:29 AM | View range problems with framing plans

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I've replied to several people on another site with this same problem and this is how we handle what I think you are trying to do.We are doing this in a round about way. We have one view for our truss/joist layout and one view for Lintels. The lintel view is cut where it can cross window and door openings and the depth and top of the view is set -6" and 6". This view then shows all wall openings and we place our lintels here. We then place both views on a sheet and line up the views on top of each other. After this, we turn off walls on the Truss/joist view to get the desired look. We do this for each floor and at the roof. It takes a little time to get used to it and you have to coordinate notes and markers so they don't overlap but it is easy to fix on the sheet by activating view.Please let me know if this helps in any way.Jon


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Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:11:30 PM | View range problems with framing plans

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How do you line the views up on top of each other accurately,

Thanks,

Garrett


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Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:08:25 AM | View range problems with framing plans

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Garrett,

You place your first view like normal.  When placing the second view on top of the first, you will get a dashed line horizontally and vertically when the two views are lined up.

 

Hope this helps,

 UKJon

 

>How do you line the views up on top of each other accurately,

>Thanks,

>Garrett


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Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:47:15 PM | View range problems with framing plans

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I am having the same issues with the framing plans not showing the openings below.  So I cant create the headers.  We have our architectural model linked in.  A work-around I figured out is too;

1. set you framing plans up as you would typically for the view rang, view properties, etc.

2. have your architect set up a plan view in their model show what you would like to see in the structural framing plans

3. under visibility graphic overides, under revit links, change it to custom settings, under BASICS change the 'linked view' to the view your architect set up, finally, change the 'view range' to <by linked view>

 

This seems to work for us.  You can then set up a view template to apply to all the framing plans.

 

hope this helps!!

 


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Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:38:28 PM | View range problems with framing plans

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lets's start from another point of view.  don't think about this from a 'view range' perspective but use 'view properties' from the structural file and 'visibility graphics' and 'revit links'. this was hard to get around becasue some of the settings seem to be 'hardcoded'.

on the structural file under 'view porperties' for discipline use 'structural'.  for 'visibility graphics' under 'revit links' the first thing we do is check the 'halftone' box so there is a visable difference btwn the linked file and our structural line work.  then use custom settings (revit linked file) and under the basics tab use the settings: 'linked view' = 'none' (you can use the linked plan, but when the arch file has design options we found it was better to use the 'design options' [revit linked file] tab to ensure the correct background.) the 'view range' is usually left 'by host view' unless we have a problem with a roof plan with steep slopes. the crucial one is the 'discipline' which we set to 'architectural' this then shows the arch linked walls below hidden. the others we leave alone

also, under the revit links in the 'model categories' try to limit what arch categories you want to show, and under 'annotation categories' we don't show any categories from the arch.

hope this helps, because in the future in know i will need some........


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Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:48:16 PM | View range problems with framing plans

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Today I began framing plans in REVIT for the first time. I have read this thread, among many others on the topic of framing plans, and even watched a video tutorial on using detail families to draw framing plans in 2-D. I abandoned most advice I found and went about it my own way, using the structural tools in REVIT as I think they were intended.

 I used structural beam systems and families to model the actual structure, putting all the structural elements 1 1/2" below the floor level. I changed the floor type to just be 3/4"plywood substrate and 3/4" finish floor. I then used a cieling for the gypsum ceiling finish underneath.

In doing this, all my regular foor plans look just as they did before I added structure, and depending on the detail level, all the structural elements show up in section, which is nice. For the framing plan, I changed the discipline to Structural, changed the view range top and cut to 0'-0" above the associated level, and the depth to the level below, and then I turned off all the excess categories, including the floors to expose the framing. You could set the view range top and cut to -1 1/2" and not turn off the floor, but patterns in the floor below show up and you will be unable to edit beam systems in this view, as your view is below the plane they are associated with.

 This is just a first crack and I have still have alot of work to do on these before they are done, but so far this is working. I'd be interested to hear any feedback from others who have anythign to say regarding this.


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