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Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 11:23:19 AM | Anyone using Revit Structure & MEP with your Revit Architecture?

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I think I have a decently powerful computer and I have an ongoing struggle trying to keep my projects from becoming huge and bogging down.  I avoid using all 3D toilets, avoid 3D cabinets, never use the sloped glazing workaround for a 3D metal roof, purge unused, always move renderings to outside the project folders deleting them from the active project, make the site into a separate workset so it can be turned off until needed, etc.  What does it do to the BIM project size when 3D Structural and MEP are added in?  Even if you break the project up into lots of worksets to keep it running smooth, don't you have to work with "everything on" when you plot?  Doesn't the client who expects a working BIM project have a few problems when he "opens it all up"?  How would a contractor in a design/build project use the BIM when it is all combined?

How does it work in the real world?  I am just curious.


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Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 4:32:31 PM | Anyone using Revit Structure & MEP with your Revit Architecture?

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Worksets are great and help you manage your working time better (i only have all worksets open if I'm plotting); however, they don't help make the actual file size any smaller.  We use a combination of worksets and linking - we will build the site in one file, the building in another, the garage in another,etc.  We then make a "combo" file that has all the files linked together.  You can still schedule linked info, control visibility, etc, just as though you were in the original files.  It really helps.

 Another thing that's made a huge difference is setting visibility controls within your families - especially furniture and railings.  Set small objects like handles, clamps, etc to only appear at a fine level of detail or only in 3d views.  This way Revit isn't having to remember as much.  (in the familym select the shape, click visibility, and specify from there.)  Most of our families only appear as symbolic lines unless you're in a 3d view and at a fine level of detail. 

That said, we have quad processors and we're still pushing the limits of our computers.  That's usually how it is - software lets you do amazing & complex things, the users demand more power from their computers, the new computers come out to fill that need and are ridiculously expensive until the next new thing comes out; by which time the users are demanding even more.... and the circle of life goes on. 

 


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Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 7:10:57 PM | Anyone using Revit Structure & MEP with your Revit Architecture?

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i'm on-board with the linking. In our office (engineering and everybody in-house): site gets a file, architecture and interiors share a file, mechanical and electrical share a file and structural gets a file. if there is extensive existing, it gets a file. if there is extensive repetition, it gets a file. worksharing is only active to let multiple people in each file at a time, not to divide up workflow. a lot of times i turn off all of the linked files to speed the computer up.

 

only slightly off-topic, one of the biggest performance savers for me seems to be dictatorial limitations on AutoCAD linking...we had a project where the PM linked in a bunch of standard details instead of making Revit-native versions and it KILLED his system performance.


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