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Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 2:25:06 PM | Export Layers in Families to Blocks is WRONG

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Why cant I make a new Category to put familes in? Revit wants to group the "Block" into the main category's Layer setting instead of braeking it up into the subcategories it in made out of. If I edit the Block everything in on the right layer. But I need to have subcategories for certain things. For example.... I have a furnace, water heater and A/C Unit that are all MEchanical Equipment. They have been made with the lines defining subcategoires such as A-EQPM-PLUM and A-EQPM-HVAC. The block is made up of these layers, BUT the actual blokc itself comes in on the generic layer I set up for MEchanical Equpment A-EQPM. Since I need them to be seperate I really need to have them in seperate family categories. BUT is it possible to create a new family category?

any suggestion would be swell! 


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Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 2:33:07 PM | Export Layers in Families to Blocks is WRONG

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The primary cateogries are set by Revit and cannot (I believe) be added to.

However, you can create new sub-categories that sit below these. You do this through the "Object Styles" control panel. Open this, then select "New Sub-Cateogry".

 I hope this helps.

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Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 2:36:55 PM | Export Layers in Families to Blocks is WRONG

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Why do you need a new catagory? Cant you just turn the object style of each instance off instead of turning off the master layer? IE if you have a furnace on Object style - Mechanical Equipment - Furnace and a ac unit on Mechanical Equipment - AC. Just tutn off the subcatagory for furnace and leave the Mechanical Equipment catagory on.

 

On a side note wouldnt a water heater be listed under plumbing not mechanical? 


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Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 3:16:04 PM | Export Layers in Families to Blocks is WRONG

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The Water heater is suppose to be on a layer called A-EQPM-PLUM whne we export to autocad. and the A/C on A-EQPM-HVAC. I have made the objects with subcategories named the same as the layers. In the layer settings I have set up the subcategories to match the layer names and the anything that is under a general Mechanical Equipment category is set to A-EQPM. But when the vies is exported the Block in autocad for the A/C and the Water Heater are both on the E-EQPM. If I edit the block the lines are set to the right layers (i.e. A-EQPM-PLUM). We give these files to consultants who are doing electrical and plumbing. They need to be able to turn certain things off and leave other things on. Right now they export all on the same layer. The only way I have found to fix this is to put them under individual categories. For example, I put the A/C under "Duct Accessory" so I could seperate it to be on the right layer seperate form tohe furnace. This is stupid and annoying cuz that means I havet to put everything in some strange family category. Most f the usefullness of the subcategories is lost when exported.

We do work for the government so they have a very high standard that we have to meet and we export everything to autocad when a job i completed. (Lame I know... but we have no choice) 


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Mon, Nov 5, 2007 at 3:44:47 PM | Export Layers in Families to Blocks is WRONG

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Actually thats how somepeople draw blocks. This is somewhat more of a CAD question... but we draw most of our blocks on layer 0 and then host them on a particular layer (say A-Furn). In cad it takes the whole block and matches the propeties of the A-Furn layer. It sounds like Revit is exporting the oppoiste way. What I ahve done with blocks that are drawn that way in the past is to just turn off the associated layers in cad rather than the block's host layer. It takes a little more work as you have to know what layers are in the block but it is still doable....

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