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just one lousy little cube from skethup 6 into revit 08 any possible way would be a victory.. here are the exact step i tried- please someone tell me what i did wrong.. 1. opened sketchup 6 made one square cube.. 2. saved that cube closed sketchup.. 3. opened revit.. (defalt project 1) 4. file> import> CAD 5. selected .skp as file type to open.. 6. browsed to saved skp file and clicked on it.. 7. bam! import dialog closed and no skp cube to be seen anywhere.. 8. restarted revit went to create mass.. 9. named new mass.. 10. repeated steps 4 5 and 6.. no imported sketchup
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make sure you have the latest version of RAC 2008. i know there were some problems with RAC 2008 and Sketchup 6 that have been fixed. i always create an mass as you stated to bring in SketchUp files and have had no problem. you can import without creating a mass, it will just have limited functionality as a mass. make sure you have the 'Show Mass" toggled on next to the 3D button. HTH
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Excuse me here. I personally have not used Sketchup. I was told it is very easy and friendly to setup massing model. Which you can later import into Revit. Likewise AutoCAD 2007 also has a similar tools of developing massing model. Since Revit already has its own powerful massing tool, it is worth while to do double work here? Do it in Sketchup and export into Revit. Maybe those of you who have more expienced on Sketchup/Revit would comment on this method. Thanks.
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thanks coreed i was just about ready to install SP2_RAC2008.. KimWong- i have had the same questions as you about why not just use Revit massing.. i don't really know yet but i'm thinking SketchUp is getting extremely popular with architects and as a Revit drafter it looks to me like i might need to import SketchUp.. i at least want to be familiar with the basics of it..
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Kim Wong- (good thing it's not "Wong Wa" lol but i'm glad you asked me about the difference between SketchUp and Revit.. here is what i think: i think they are both the same.. they both extrude solid and void from a surface.. one big difference is that in SU you can plaster images all over the mass surfaces- like pictures of doors and windows and bricks etc.. (i think it's pretty lame myself) but it might be a little quicker to put those images of windows doors and bricks on the boxes rather than converting Revit massing to walls windows and doors and then rendering the surfaces.. but then with Revit you have a REAL model and not just boxes with fake pictures of windows and doors.. i don't know why they say it's popular with architects or if it really is.. if anyone else knows something about SketchUp i don't- please tell..
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Thanks for the info on SU. Now I know how they do all those nice shopfronts and ad! That give me an idea to do the same with Revit. I could convert the massing into wall and then place similar decal images on it without having to do too much work on the doors, windows and frames. Some of my Architect friends who earlier bought Revit are now great fans of SU. They found Revit too hard to learn and gave up. They went for SU instead. Are you guys using both SU and Revit?
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nobody using SketchUp here.. but i found that if you really explore how SU works you will appreciate Revit massing that much more and get a very fresh perspective on massing in general.. that Google Warehouse site with all those SU creations is a great place for amazing insights.. and yes once you convert a mass to a wall you can place things on it and render it and the only difference is things like the windows will be real and not pictures.. no way could i see showing a SketchUp model to a client.. not to mention it probably takes more time to place those pictures of doors and windows with SU than it does to place real ones with Revit.. but again maybe someone knows something about SU i don't..
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We are big Revit users and not SketchUp, but our clients bring us SketchUp models as a starting point often. I have seen awesome work in SketchUp that can definitely be shown to clients. I think an advantage to designers in SketchUp is the ability to show their designs quickly without being very exact in everything they do. They can easy smudge over areas that aren't perfectly constructed and still produce something that shows their intent without struggling with the exact ability to build it early on.Designers often hand off very artistic and very good looking Sketch models to Revit staff who then need to get very specific. I have been inside over 50 firms in the past year that have SketchUp models that are excellent tools for producing work very worthy of showing clients in the very early phases of the Architectural process. I am continually impressed with the work people are doing in SketchUp. It only gets you so far though. Revit is changing what architects can produce for clients early on. Perhaps it just takes less work in Sketch up to get through concept design and even schematic. A company has to send out invoices usually related to milestones to get paid. This is another big discussion point in the industry. Revit is making waves here.
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I've used Sketchup for 6 years or so and revit for about the last 3 months. Sketchup is the most popular tool i know of among architectural designers, especially of the younger generations. its modeling tools are not as sophisticated as revit's (you can't do very complicated swept blends) but they get the job done and they are MUCH MUCH faster and more intuitive than the solid mass generating tools in Revit. Modeling geometries in Sketchup and importing them to Revit is at least 5 times faster than modeling similar geometries using the inherant Revit tools. The major reason that Sketchup is so much better fit for this I think is the real-time 3d nature of the drawing environment... in sketchup you never have to "switch views" or draw in 2d
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good discussion of SketchUp we have going here.. i don't use SketchUp i just use revit.. but i have thought about SketchUp for a long time.. just like the name implies- it's a way to "sketch" the basic shape of a building.. the big question is- is it better than a pencil.. i don't think so.. but i can't prove that because i am not a sketch artist.. i have started models by importing SketchUp lines- and i have started models from pencil sketches.. the imported SketchUp lines make it a little faster getting the model started- but i don't think that matters too much.. a real artist has a vision in their mind's eye- i'm sure a pencil would be best for that job.. but i'll take the sketch either way- i'm just a model builder and i'm learning to produce the construction documents from the model.. but someone who can design a building like an artist is rare.. and that is who i will be hunting down.. SketchUp or pencil i don't care..
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My design workflow goes Pen & Marker >> Sketchup >> Revit. Obviously a pen (or pencil) is necessary to start any design and is the quickest way to get an idea across. Now with sketchup we can begin solving more complex spacial problems and investigating things further (solar studies, quick views, etc...) this "schematic" phase leads into a Revit model where things are precisely measured and tagged during design development and CD's. Obviously not the only way to do it, just my thoughts. Either way Sketchup is a much faster modeler when working with generic masses. There is always a "best tool for the job." Revit is a BIM solution for virtually constructing a building. Sketchup is a quick and dirty 3d modeling program for producing geometric shapes in the minimum amount of time possible.
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makes good sense billy.. apparently you are an artist and a revit model builder all in one.. it's a funny thing about artistic talent.. lots of people (including myself) have some of that talent- as you can see in the revit gallery.. but the weird truth is that even in the gallery there is really only about a half dozen models that could be considered commercially valuable.. if i was one of those dozen i wouldn't be talking about finding an artist to design buildings for me to model.. that's just how i feel about the whole thing i guess.. but i want to model some buildings that were sketched by some very rare talent.. maybe i'm dreaming and maybe i won't find them so easy.. but i'm going to try.. and like i said- whether they deliver their sketch to me as a .skp or .dwg or just a pencil sketch- i will take it from there.. but tell me anything you know about it billy- because it's clear to me that concept/massing/sketching- is where the building actually comes from..
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