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Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 3:05:53 PM | stacked wall troubles

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i made the mistake of drawing a house using stacked walls. VERY slow to draw with & they don't seem to join right. "Edit wall joins" behaves VERY slowly with them and doesn't come up with the right answers. see attached. now I have to go back and REDRAW all the exterior walls stacking regular wall components. Stacked walls: good idea, not ready for prime time, in my opinion.

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Tue, Feb 1, 2005 at 1:58:59 PM | RE: stacked wall troubles

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more mystery. This wall section is from a stacked wall. Can anyone tell me why the footing gets drawn so tall? it is not an attached wall. See the wall definition attached. I'll attach the section in the next post.

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Tue, Feb 1, 2005 at 2:00:41 PM | RE: stacked wall troubles

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section of bad stacked wall

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Thu, Feb 3, 2005 at 11:57:19 PM | RE: stacked wall troubles

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I've had similar problems using stacked walls. I've found that the lower wall components seem to behave correctly, but the upper components don't fillet at corners. I discovered that the 'offset' column in the 'edit structure' section requires that you draw the wall(s) before entering a value greater or less than 0.0. If you enter a value before drawing the walls, they misbehave themselves. Try first drawing the walls with the offset values set to zero for all the wall components, and then change the offset values to the desired values once all your walls are drawn. I found that this solved my problem & all wall components behaved correctly. This seems to be a procedural error in Revit's code. Anyway HTH.

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Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:31:24 AM | RE: stacked wall troubles

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You may use the "Break Up" command to transform your stacked wall to a stack of regular walls. It is under the right click context menu. Then you can edit wall joins better in case they did not behave well for the stacked wall case.

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Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:37:49 AM | RE: stacked wall troubles

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Quoting riksta - 2005-02-03 17:57:19

"I've had similar problems using stacked walls. I've found that the lower wall components seem to behave correctly, but the upper components don't fillet at corners. I discovered that the 'offset' column in the 'edit structure' section requires that you draw the wall(s) before entering a value greater or less than 0.0. If you enter a value before drawing the walls, they misbehave themselves. Try first drawing the walls with the offset values set to zero for all the wall components, and then change the offset values to the desired values once all your walls are drawn. I found that this solved my problem & all wall components behaved correctly. This seems to be a procedural error in Revit's code. Anyway HTH."



I don't understand what you mean about requiring to draw walls before entering offset values that are not 0.0. I tried and everything seems to work as expected.

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Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 7:10:12 PM | stacked wall troubles

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so im finding that stacked walls look awesome in section and will create accurate estimating take-offs, but behave badly in elevations and 3d, especially filleting at corners.  in general, im wondering if ive created MORE problems for myself by using this method.  recommendation?

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Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 8:47:36 PM | stacked wall troubles

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The first thing that needs to be checked is that the wall center lines line up in the the stacked wall. This can be done by using the alignment tool. The next thing that I do when I construct a stacked wall is the top wall is not the variable wall.

That wall is controlled by the unconnected height. The walls in the middle are the ones that should be controlled by the variable height. I use this to control how high I might want a brick wall. You also might want to check and see if the the two walls that have similar characteristics. Such as 2 X 6 stud with brick and 2 X 6 stud with siding. HTH


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