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Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 6:45:47 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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I was wondering if there was a way to use visibility graphics to somehow halftone the interior walls compared to the exterior walls? same thing for elevation tags. I only want to do this for one or two individual views as I know I can change them all thru object styles....well the tags anyway. Any help would be great!

 

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Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 6:51:08 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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If you have the exterior walls on a different phase than the interior walls you could set up a phase filter.

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Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 7:07:26 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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any pointers on the best way to create the phase filter? thanks for the help

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Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 7:51:45 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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I wouldn't use a phase filter, rather I wuold use a filter in the Visibility/Graphics dialog.  Check out the Revit Help section on creating a filter.  You'll have to insert some information into the walls' parameters.  I've used the Type Comments field, and put in "Interior Partition" for all of the interior walls (I also use this parameter as part of a description legend tag).  Then filter by that parameter.

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Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 7:55:16 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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As far as elevation tags - if you're using 2008 you can override the graphics by element of the tag in the desired views.  (You can select all of the tags you want to halftone at once and override the graphics for all of them.)  Aside from that, there's no other way that I know of.  Visibility/graphics filters don't apply to annotations.

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Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 12:13:50 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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yes i am on 2008. I think I get what you are saying for the interior walls viz/graphics filters, but i am not sure how to do what you are suggesting for the elevation tags. could you explain a little more maybe? Thanks for the help

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Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 12:20:32 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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Just select the elevation tag(s) in the view in which you want them to be halftone.  Right-click and select "Override Graphics In View" -> "By Element" and check the box next to halftone.

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Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 1:24:01 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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awesome. Thanks for the tip. I assume i can do this with the walls too right?

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Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 1:36:25 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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You could - however I wouldn't consider it a best practice to so.  I would still stick to visibility graphics filters:

Edit the Type Parameter "Type Comments" for each interior partition type to read "Interior Partition"  (unless you're using this parameter for something else.

In the views you're working with, go to the V/G dialog box and click the Filters Tab

Click Edit/New.  Add a filter, checking wall for the category.  Under "Filter Rules"  Filter by Type Name equals Interior Partition.  Click OK.

Now click Add and select the filter you just created.  Check the box in the Halftone column. 

This way, if you add a new interior wall, it will also show up halftone (assuming it has the correct Type Comments)


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Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 1:43:12 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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yes i will try that as well. what about it doenst make it a good practice out of curiousity? time consuming?

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Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 1:54:38 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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Yes, it's time consuming, but most importantly it doesn't take advantage of Revit's parametric capabilites.  Like I said in that earlier post, if you draw a new wall of an Interior Partition type, and you have set up filters, it will show up as halftone.  If filters aren't set up, you would have to hunt it down and change it by element.  It decreases the chance of human error.


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Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 2:52:35 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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Why not use phasing and phase filters?  You should be using phases anyway in good file set up, and doing a phase filter wouldnt be much to set up.

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Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 3:28:31 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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Got it. Thanks for your help. it definately works for what we are trying to do thanks again.

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Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 5:14:16 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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Phases are intended to be used in projects with multiple phases, such as renovation projects.  It makes it possible for you to separate existing, demo, and new.  They are not necessary for a "good file set up" if you're just working on new construction, in my opinion. 

There are other uses for phases.  For example, I use a phase for my partition, door, and window legends so that I am able to tag objects in the legends (which you can't do in a legend view), but they don't show up or schedule with the actual building.

 But that's just my 2 cents.   


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Wed, Aug 1, 2007 at 3:51:35 PM | Wall and interior elevation visibility graphics settings....

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oK i SETUP THE VISIBILITY GRAPHICS FILTER FOR THE INTERIOR WALLS. NOW IS THERE AN EASY WAY TO COPY THOSE FILTERS FORM VIEW TO VIEW OR DO I NEED TO SET THEM UP ALL INDIVIUALLY IN THE VIEWS I NEED THEM IN?

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