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I am new and using Revit 2008. Am I missing something or how do you put storefront doors in storefront? Just using standard Kawneer 451 and want to put typical aluminum doors in it. I can't seem to find a door that goes correctly in it. Thanks
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You cannot place a regular door into storefront or glazing. What you want to place is a curtain wall door such as "Curtain Wall Dbl Glass.rfa" which can be found in your revit family library. To place the curtain wall doors, open the file I mentioned, and load it into your project. Once you have loaded it, select a panel in your curtain wall by pressing tab as you hover over the glass panel you would like to change to a door. You will notice, that once you select this panel you can change it by selecting from the material drop down at the top left of your screen. One of the choices will be your new "curtain wall double glass"
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Thanks, that got me closer. I got the dbl door in and I also was able to get a single glass door in. Now with both of these there was still the mullion at the sill. I can hide that mullion but that doesn't seem right because the door doesn't go all the way to the sill, even if I hide it before inserting the door. The double door looks kind of like a regular aluminum door but there doesn't seem to be a single door like that. The only one I have is a full glass door. Is there a single door simlar to the double door available anywhere? Thanks
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Just selct the mullion at the bottom of the door and delete it. You can also grab individual mullion grid lines and delete segments of that grid(look at the tool bar at the top of the window once you have tabbed over and selected a mullion grid line). There is probably a single door on revitcity some where, but you may need to create one yourself. Just use the double door family as a starting point and save it as another name, and load into your project.
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I've been trying to figure this out for a while. I went and loaded one of the curtain wall doors into the project but it didn't seem to load, when I cursor over the curtain wall its still the last door I loaded which doesn't work with the curtain wall. Any suggestions? I tried doing exactly what you said but for some reason it's not really working for me.
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I am not sure what you are asking here... make sure that you select a pane of glass within the curtain wall itself. Have you been able to do this? Once you have selected an actual pane of glass within the curtain wall  Pressing TAB as you hover over the panels of glass to select one) a drop down will be shown. This drop down will have all curtain wall items you have loaded into the model ranging from solid panels to doors. I do not believe there is a single curtain wall door that comes with revit. You will probably need to create one, search on revit city for one or here: http://revit.autodesk.com/library/html/index.html Let me know if this does not answer your problems
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Ok I got it to work. Thanks for the help jefliving.
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The Doors that host into Curtain Panels can be unforgiving. It is hard to add components or parameters that will adjust with the width and height of the door as the height and width are variable based on the size of the curtain panel. Also, when these doors are scheduled the width is usually something inexact like 29/256ths of an inch, causing you to have to modify the curtain wall geometry which, at a late stage in documents, can be hazardous. Instead, I recommend placing a generic wall that matches the thickness of your curtain mullions and then inserting any DOOR into this wall. This allows for far more flexibility.
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"You cannot place a regular door into storefront or glazing. What you want to place is a curtain wall door such as "Curtain Wall Dbl Glass.rfa" which can be found in your revit family library. To place the curtain wall doors, open the file I mentioned, and load it into your project. Once you have loaded it, select a panel in your curtain wall by pressing tab as you hover over the glass panel you would like to change to a door. You will notice, that once you select this panel you can change it by selecting from the material drop down at the top left of your screen. One of the choices will be your new "curtain wall double glass" -------------------- I have loaded the curtain wall door into my project, but it does not appear in the drop down as an option. it does appear in my project browser under families, but i cannot apply it to a storefront pane. Do I need to be using a different curtain wall?
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Jefliving,
I justwanted to say thank you! I was struggling with this for half a day and watching tutorials, but it wasn't until you said to select the pain of glass and the door will appear on the list to be placed that I understood what was going on and was able to get it to work.
One question: I couldn;t seem to select the glass panel in elevation and had to move to 3d view, pick around the bottom of the door and then tab. Am I just not being patient enough in the elevation view or is there another trick for tab selecting I do not understand?
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A storefront panel can be a solid panel, a glass panel, an empty system panel, some other panel you created or a door panel. All of the panels available in your project currently are grouped together in your browser. Any of these can be selected to fit between grid planes of a storefront. To select, tab near the edge of the panel location in 3D or elevation view or in plan.
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