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I need to add floor pattern drawings to a separate plan without them showing up on the main floor plan. Have asked on the Tech Forum for help with no results. I am sure there is something simple that I am missing but so far haven't found it.
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Simple - It's just like any other duplicate plan. For floor finishes plan, furniture plan .... just select the floor plan you wish to copy in your browser, right click and either select copy or copy with detailing as appropriate. Re-title the new drawing, change its VG as appropriate and you have your plan
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That is exactly, I think, what I did. When I add something to that copy of my plan, it also appears on my original plan as well. It happens when I "duplicate", "duplicate with detailing", and "duplicate as dependent." There MUST be something simple that I have overlooked. Why would anyone need a duplicate plan unless you wanted different stuff to appear on it. It has to work. Please, tell me what I am doing wrong!
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If you are adding 3d elements to your plans, they will be in ALL plans. Remember, your plan is nothing but a window of the model. That is what is great about REVIT but to take advatage of this, you need to control visibility. If you are adding 2d drafting (fill paterns) to your plan for floor finishes, this should only shown on the plan you are on. If you are using a surface pattern for your floor, this is a model element that could be both 3d & or 2d. That will be in all plans but can be turned off under VG - sub category under floors - surface patterns. BTW - why don't you change your tag line. REVIT is very good at gitting it done. When I have a problem, I don't bad mouth REVIT because I usually find out it's my problem - not the program's.
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..........in shading with edges views for client interaction. I have a five color floor tile pattern that repeats down the hall in a school. NOW, I am in working drawings and attempting to use the same 3D element in the working drawing VCT Floor Pattern Plan sheet. So what I now need to do, if I am understanding you correctly, is to quit using the 3D components that showed the floor pattern so well and create line drawings that duplicate the pattern so that they only show up on the Floor Pattern Plan where they would be created. Wouldn't it be a much better deal if the 3D element could be used in the construction document process without alteration? Why not make the visibility graphics selections include the ability to turn on or turn off the visibility differently in separate plans? Regarding my tag line: Autocad serves manufacturing detailers first and building construction professionals second. Revit's primary focus is on the 3D Designer and providing BIM data for contractors. As a result, Autocad has many little ways it serves the detailer very well that have slowly migrated into Revit with many still missing. Thus the contrast between the flashy end of the process and the "get it done" end. The straw that broke this camel's back and triggered the tag line was when, after fighting bizarre problems with stack walls without success, the Revit Architect Phone Help-Person admitted that Revit just hasn't worked out all of the problems with stack walls, yet. It was obvious to me that those problems were too many layers below the notice of Revit Software Gurus as they focused on expanding the flashy end for maxiumum marketing purposes. JMVHO
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I guess I'm lost. You have a plan with the 3d pattern on it and it works? .... or did you only have a rendering bitmap assigned to your floor? Since you said "....shading W/ edges", you have to have either a 2d or a 3d surface pattern. 3d & 2d patterns will both show up on plans and can be turned on/off thru VG. If you assigned accurender textures and rendered your plans, I can understand your problem. Those only show up in rendered views.
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I love the way Revit presents itself in shading with edges views. It communicates well to the client without trying to look like a photograph. If a finished rendering doesn't have all of the correct lighting, details, bells, and whistles it looks like a poor attempt to duplicate a photo. In order to create the look of a VCT accent tile pattern, I created five different colored thin squares to attach and array on my floor. See attached jpg of the shading with edges view. I simply would like to leave these thin 3d tiles on one plan and have them visible there without being visible on the other plans. My clients love having me do a live 3D viewing of the project using shading with edges views. Can you not see how this is another example of Revit working great on the flashy end of the process while not quite working out all of the details on the get it done end?
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OK ... Now we are getting somewhere. Whatever your thin squares are - simply put them in a phase that you can filter out where you don't want them.
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Much easier than redrawing all of those 3D floor patterns with detail lines. I am so impressed that I changed, slightly, my tag line. Thanks for your help.
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