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Sat, Jun 9, 2007 at 12:29:37 AM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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I'm accustomed to making framing plans which show the openings in the level below so that you can mark headers.  The problem with doing this is that if the cut plane is below the floor level, structural beam system lines don't show up.  I.E. in order to get the joist plan rep lines to show up the cut plan has to be set at or above the floor for which the framing plan is being made, but the openings in the wall below the floor don't show up unless the cut plane is set to a level which cuts through them.  Anyone have any suggestions?

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Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 12:31:43 AM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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The best advice I can give you, and granted this is a horrible workaround, is to edit your opening family. What happens with families if you want certain parts to show up you need to make sure a part of them intersects the cut plane. What someone did long ago is they took a detail line in elevation view in the family editor and drew one vertically so that it would intersect the cut plane in the project.

 

So in your instance, a detail line in your family that would make it a foot above your plate line would suffice. You would also turn on the underlay of your structural level to show what's underneath.

 

One slight problem with this way would be that since it is intersecting the cut plane, Revit sees it as on that level. So it would not be a half tone like the underlay.

 

If you are fine with this method and don't want to do detail lines manually for each and every one of your headers, edit your family to have your detail line show automatically. If it intersects the cut plane, then your graphic representation of a header will be placed automatically.

 

Just as a sidenote, if you do this, it also might give you a graphic representation when you DON'T want it to. You could also edit your family to have an on/off parameter to help in this situation.

 

Many, many options. 


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Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 9:12:50 PM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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Thank you for the advice.  I'm not sure what the best method might be, but it is helpful to know that there are many options.  It's starting to seem clear to me that framing plans for residential projects really are better done with detail lines rather than using structural beam systems.

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Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:44:50 PM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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I am having this same issue right now.  I noticed this thread is old so I am assuming the 2011 version will allow this now.  Any idea how to make this work without changing the family?

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Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:14:34 PM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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Are you wokring in Revit Architecture and trying to show frmg plans as well as floor plans?

 

If so, why not change you visual style in your frmg plan view to be wireframe?


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Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:11:34 PM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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I'm using Revit Structure 2011...I have foudna work around but it seems there is a much better way.

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Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:00:53 PM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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Assuming you are linking an Arch revit file...you're going to want to control the linked file thru visibilty/graphic overrides.  Here is where you control how you want the arch model (background) for your frmg plans to appear.  The major benefit is you are able to select which floor plan from the linked file you want to use.  So if you're on your second floor frmg plan - your linked file can be set to show the first floor plan.

 

That is just one example - because there are many settings you can choose from depending on how you want the arch background to function, but a linked model should be controlled thru the visibility graphic overrides for each view.

 

Hope this helps!


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Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:03:04 PM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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I'm using Revit Structure 2011...I have foudna work around but it seems there is a much better way.

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Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:05:29 PM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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I am using a linked in architectural file.  Where do you select which architectural floor plan to view as your base plan?

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Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:11:23 PM | Framing Plan - Getting Walls Below Floor to Show Openings

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Visibility/graphic overrides - revit links...see attached pic

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