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Thu, May 24, 2007 at 3:12:55 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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Is there a way to rename or create a discipline in the sheet area of the browser? I know the defaults are there but I want to rename one or add a new discipline and can't figure out how. Thanks

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Thu, May 24, 2007 at 5:30:03 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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Add a shared parameter to "Drawing Sheets" called Drawing Discipline.  Then you can give each sheet its discipline value (you may find it easiest to use a type parameter).  You will then be able to enter any value you like.

 You will then be able to create a browser organisation that sorts via discipline.

The Discipline parameter for sheets is not editable and cannot be added to.  This parameter is used to control how the view displays certain elements.

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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:35:41 AM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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I'm having a similar issue but with views rather than sheets.  We have a fairly complicated design and will end up with lots and lots of section cuts, etc.  I know that you can control the visibility of section marks with the discipline setting (i.e. setting certain sections to "structural" only allows them to be visible in views that are also set to "structural"Winking; can you create/edit the availble disciplines?  For example: I'd like to add a discipline such as "stairs" so we can make sure our stair sections don't show up anywhere but our stair views.  I know I can control it with the "hide at views coarser than" setting but that's not enough here.  I tried to look through the project parameters but didn't see anything and I don't see a txt file anywhere in the program files that can be edited.  Any suggestions?


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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:54:16 AM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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Same answer ... add a shared parameter to views and set up your browser to sort your views accordingly. 

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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:10:07 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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That would work fine for the purpose of categorizing or scheduling but creating a shared parameter won't control visibility settings of view annotations.  I essentially want to add to the list of available Disciplines (i.e. Architectural, Structural, Electrical, Coordination) so I can categorize my views accorning to their locations within the building rather than their discipline (i.e. stairs, balconies, guest rooms, etc) since we will not be doing coordination between disciplines in Revit on this project.  Please let me know if anyone knows how to add "Disciplines" to the parameter that is already in there.

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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:28:18 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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... don't know what "...won't control visibility settings of view annotations"  means but to control where your views are in the browser....

 

Same answer

Discipline is a parameter that you set...

You set another parameter(s) that will then subsort under the discipline.

 


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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:09:52 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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You have to add a project parameter, under settings.  You could name it Project Discipline or Browser or whatever, then apply it to Views under Categories.  It will then show up in your view property and you can name it what ever you would like.  Then change your browser organization property and you will be set. 

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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:26:48 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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Ok, I'm obviously not doing a very good job explaining what I mean.  I am NOT trying to organize my browser... that part's under control.  Stick with me and let me try again.

There is a default parameter set up in the instance properties of section views, plan views, elevation views, etc called "discipline" under the "graphics" heading.  The options are "Architectural", "Structural", "Mechanical", "Electrical", and "Coordination". 

In addition to helping you to organize your browser and drawing sheets, the discipline also affects some visibility properties... i.e. if a section mark is visible on a plan.  For example: if you have a plan whose discipline is set to "structural" then only section views whose disciplines are ALSO set to "structural" will be visible on that plan.  Section views with their discipline set to "Architectural" or anything else would NOT be visible.

What I am trying to figure out how to do is to add items to the list of those disciplines.  I'm wondering if there is a txt file somewhere in the program files that could be edited to include additional disciplines.  So, in addition to "Architectural", "Structural", "Mechanical", "Electrical", and "Coordination", I could have things like "stairs", "guest rooms","balconies", etc for internal coordination.  If there is a way to do this then I can be sure that sections of the stairs only show up on plans of the stairs.

Does this make sense?

I'm guessing that Mr. Spot's comment above "The Discipline parameter for sheets is not editable and cannot be added to.  This parameter is used to control how the view displays certain elements." is probably the unfortunate answer to my question.

 

 


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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:35:22 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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You would be right with that assumption.  The only control for automatically showing up in different views is the "Hide at scales coarser than" or putting things in options and that would probably be a mess.

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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:57:57 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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Yeah, I figured.  Sad  The "hide at scales coarser than" thing doesn't work for this particular scenario and I definitely don't want to use options (although, that might just be a good idea for a smaller project so I'll keep it in mind).  I'll probably just use the disciplines that are already created and pretend that "mechanical" means "stairs".  Not the most straight-forward way to go about it but we're not doing any interdisciplinary coordination in Revit for this project so it will have to do.  Thanks for the help Blake.

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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:08:39 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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Why dont you just hide them in the view?  That tends to be the traditional method.  Also if you use a View Callout vs.  a Detail Callout, the View Callout is view specific.  You can show it in other views by referencing it.

On the design options suggestion, our interior people us that sometimes for furniture and casework elevations.  They put their furniture and call outs on the second option then leave the primary empty, so the architects and other disciplines never see unless they turn the option on.  

The only roadblock with your idea is if you ever use a consultant on revit but it sounds like you dont.


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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:26:31 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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We hopefully will use consultants with Revit some day but the consultants that we use just aren't there yet.  I think they're looking into Revit but they're still on CAD 2004 for the most part.

We typically do just hide the sections in the views but this became a little hairy in one of our last projects that required a lot of detailing and it took a lot of time to go back and make sure that the correct section marks were visible in the correct plan/elevation/callout/etc.  I was just trying to find a better way to begin with on this one so we didn't run into the same thing.  

The issue is mainly with section marks but that is good to know about the view callouts.  I haven't run into any issues with callout visibility so I haven't really had the need to figure out the differences.  Thanks!

I can see how design options would be useful for separating the interiors stuff.  We don't have in-house interiors so this is also something that we haven't had to work through.  Perhaps I could set up view worksets and achieve our goal without having to initiate design options.  Have you tried/been successful/encountered issues with doing it that way?  Thanks for the help!


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Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:30:38 PM | Renaming or creating disciplines

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Nevermind about the worksets thing; doesn't appear to be possible to choose the workset for a section view.

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