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efko

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Hello,

    is there any way how to tag several rooms (that have same "Department" field set) with total computed area? We are doing a lot of big residential projects, where we need to place a name of unit (often some code composed from building entry, level, number on the level) and it's corresponding total netto area next to place where it appears on the sheet...

Thanks for any help, Frantisek Stafek 

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TomDorner

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There is really no way to do this as you describe.

Area plans can be used to get a 'unit' area, but you have to place a bunch of area lines on the unit demising walls.  You can align and lock the area lines to the demising walls so they do respond to change.  Not sure about that though on linked files.

Many firms end up simply turning off all the room bounding properties on internal unit walls and tag the unit as one room and add 'dummy' room tags that are mearly annotations for each room in the unit.  This supposes that you don't care about individula room areas within the unit.

In Revit Architecture 2008 with the strong ability to link in files you may wish to play around with teh idea of each unit as it's own file linked into the master project.  This may give you some additional possibilities to play around with.

Ultimately what is needed in Revit is a more structured way to look at room areas.  Example:  Room grouped into a higher level such as Department/Unit/Zone which is schedulable and tagable.

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>many firms end up simply turning off all the room bounding properties on internal unit walls and tag the unit as one

>room and add 'dummy' room tags that are mearly annotations for each room in the unit.  This supposes that you

>don't care about individula room areas within the unit.

Well, that's exactly what we can't do. we need in each room just placed square meters and then total of each unit. Client needs and wants it and we understand it. Furthermore once placed, defined rooms will be used in later design stages... 

I thought I could do it via schedule, so that near unit is only label with name of the unit (manually entered), and then above sheet titleblock table with just the totals, but no. Revit can't hide the inidividual room listings in the schedule and show only subtotals. I can't fit the whole schedule with all of the rooms on one A3 (not counting the fact that it is nor desirable nor needed to read 300 nameless room listing in study phase).

wish #1 "query tag" with enanced string and arithmetic manipulation in formulas, maybe some scripting language. query tag should be able to extract info from whole database or selected entities.

wish #2 more powerfull schedules, something like sql maybe combined with some scripting langage. ability to extract from whole database or selected entities.

>Department/Unit/Zone

Well, maybe that this could' be default, but one should be able to place its' own parameters but what is more important, to be able to extract them. That is what is Revit unable as it seems to me. Extract wisely the information entered in the project, or provide the user means to extract it.

Thanks for help, Frantisek Stafek. 

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One tricky way to handle this issue. For instance, you have a multi storey residential building with many flats and you want to put a tag with different types of area over each flat: living, gross, with balcony. So you can create many little schedules, which would look like a tag table. And than put that tag-table over a layout in the Sheet. This table will automatically update. But it will exist only on the sheet. And there will be to many little schedules.

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And of course you have to create some parametr to filter each flat in that schedule

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