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Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 1:13:14 PM | Keynotes and Note Blocks--not getting it

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I have looked through several posts here and Revit City and found some information but not enough. Can someone clarify and direct me on the whole Keynote and Note Block thing.

 

I am setting up the firm I am at but have never used keynotes before in Revit (always typed notes).

So at this firm they use Keynotes with keynote list (schedule) per sheet. I think they want to go with one keynote list per project eventually (I can recommend that Revit works better one way they will go for it, please advise on that).

 

My dilemma is how do I go about setting up either a keynote or note block in the template file. We will not be modeling everything. Alot of ceiling items and plan items will be 2d lines. Therefore keynotes will not work. An old buddy of mine used a family called keynote on it. Then he had several types inside of it. Each type has a description and keynote number. Then somehow linked this to a schedule. To insert he had to use the symbol function.

 

Is this way considered note blocks? I cannot find a description of how to go about setting this up. It seems like a lot of work to make types with name and number. Is this the way to go?

Need some direction here?

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Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 5:47:05 PM | Keynotes and Note Blocks--not getting it

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Daryl from dgcad had a free cadclip I believe on this. He seemed very pumped about it. However, to get to completely understand the keynotes, I believe he made another video tutorial on it and that would be one you would have to buy if I'm not mistaken.

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Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 6:47:04 AM | Keynotes and Note Blocks--not getting it

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from my understanding of keynotes - there are now in effect two types.  the old one was a family based annotation symbol, that could then be scheduled, as in "note block".  we used that a bit.  there is a new thing in 9.0, also called keynote, but linked to the object.  which can also be scheduled.  other more experienced folk can answer this latter one better as we have not started using it much.

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Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:07:57 PM | Keynotes and Note Blocks--not getting it

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Two years later from the original post, I search for answers.  I personally understand how to use keynotes, but I am confused on the functionality of the note block.  I have two ideas that may work for note blocks, but I have not tested which one would be best.

Method 1:

  1. Create one symbol family for each view (plan, rcp, site, elevations, etc.)  The symbol has the instance parameters: number value, description, and catagory.
  2. Create drafting view that you can place all of the symbols on, so Note block schedules can be made for each symbol.
  3. One you create all your notes, copy all the symbols to their respective views.
  4. Each time you need to make a new note, you need to do it in the special drafting view first.
  5. This method will safeguard against losing information you have inputed into the schedule, even if you remove symbols off the designated drawing view.  Where the catagory parameter comes into play, is when you have a note description that you may not be using...but may in the future.  You type in the catagory field some name you make up (I use "dummy"Winking.  In the schedules, set the "dummy" catagory to be filtered out.

Method 2:

  1. Create one symbol family for each view (plan, rcp, site, elevations, etc.)  The symbol has the type parameters: number (not number value), description, and make a new one called "reference" (optional).
  2. In each symbol family create a type for each note you want on the plans Cryinggreat for standardization)  You can name the type my the number or a few words from the description...or whatever makes the most sense.
  3. When you are placing the symbols, all of the descriptions are embeded into the family type and just select from the drop-down menu in the options bar.
  4. Make a note block schedule for each symbol family.
  5. Because some types may not be used you will end up with skipped numbers in the associated schedules.  I would suggest an general note with each schedule that state that some note numbers were intentially not used.

They both have their issues, but I am leaning towards method 2.


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Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:00:24 AM | Keynotes and Note Blocks--not getting it

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sometime later for me too.  mattmolls has the best methods all listed i think.  we use no 1.  works great.  did you also know you can make any symbol with loads of parameters that include linework on and off, rotatable bits, and more.  we use these a lot for reno notes, roof pitches etc.  the good thing is the text can always stay horizontal.  and you can schedule each one.  amazing.


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