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Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 7:35:24 PM | Revit Architecture 2008 Gripes

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I am posting these with hopes that someone will have a solution.  So far, we are happy with the new Revit.  Ii thouroughly enjoy being able to hide a specific object and not have it plot out, and i really like the way crop regions now work.  But we are running into a few things we dont like

-The new dependant views.  When i create a match line for dependant views, and tag that match line, it is not parametric.  I have to tell it which area i want it to reference.  I do like how my annotations work with the dependant views, with one exception.  If i delete an annotation in one dependant view, i have to then delete it in the matching view as well as the floor plan.  Just seems like too much work for how smart Revit should be.

-Callouts.  We upgraded a project and discovered that all of our callouts had dissappeared from the Floor Plan view.  The callouts still existed, but the annotation itself had dissappeared.  Only when we turned off crop regions (not making it invisible, but turning it off) did the callouts come back.  Well with the floor plan, there is Site information now showing that we do not want visible in the Floor Plan.  So in order to have the callouts visible, we have to turn off the Crop Region and then us a new "Masking Region" to eliminate the visibility of items we do not want shown.  As far as we can tell, a Masking Region is the exact same thing as a Solid White Filled Region except that it does not export to AutoCAD as a solid fill, which is nice. 

If anyone knows of a fix, or if we are doing things the wrong way, let's hear about it!


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Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 11:14:29 PM | freestyle250

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Quoting freestyle250 from 2007-04-23 14:35:24

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I am posting these with hopes that someone will have a solution.  So far, we are happy with the new Revit.  Ii thouroughly enjoy being able to hide a specific object and not have it plot out, and i really like the way crop regions now work.  But we are running into a few things we dont like

-The new dependant views.  When i create a match line for dependant views, and tag that match line, it is not parametric.  I have to tell it which area i want it to reference.  I do like how my annotations work with the dependant views, with one exception.  If i delete an annotation in one dependant view, i have to then delete it in the matching view as well as the floor plan.  Just seems like too much work for how smart Revit should be.

-Callouts.  We upgraded a project and discovered that all of our callouts had dissappeared from the Floor Plan view.  The callouts still existed, but the annotation itself had dissappeared.  Only when we turned off crop regions (not making it invisible, but turning it off) did the callouts come back.  Well with the floor plan, there is Site information now showing that we do not want visible in the Floor Plan.  So in order to have the callouts visible, we have to turn off the Crop Region and then us a new "Masking Region" to eliminate the visibility of items we do not want shown.  As far as we can tell, a Masking Region is the exact same thing as a Solid White Filled Region except that it does not export to AutoCAD as a solid fill, which is nice. 

If anyone knows of a fix, or if we are doing things the wrong way, let's hear about it!

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1.  Yes it is a pity the matchlines and dependant views aren't a little smarter in that sense.  It is smart enough to know which view not to show the view reference tag in though...  I was hoping that we could simply draw lines to break up the crop region and the dependant view would automatically be created.  maybe in the next release.

 

2. That is strange, i haven't experienced that yet.  Are you using the DVD build or the web build.  The web build is two releases newer than the DVD build.  Also check its not something to do with the annotation crop region.  Try switching it on or off...

 

3. Previously there was a way to create solid white filled regions and have them export okay, so there is nothing new here. The only advantages of the new masking regions is their inclusion in all templates.



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Wed, May 23, 2007 at 5:07:10 PM | Revit Architecture 2008 Gripes

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I found if you have a scope box set up it eliminates the need for masking the stuff out side your cropped region because for some reason it maintains the crop region even when it is selected as "Do Not Crop View"

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Fri, May 25, 2007 at 4:44:56 PM | Revit Architecture 2008 Gripes

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I am having the same problems with my callouts.  As a work around until they correct the problem I am putting callouts on the plans as a referenced callout and taking the sim. off the callout.

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