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Matildaleon

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Hello everyone,

We're architects in a 15 person firm (www.archimania.com) ....& we're considering the move from autocad (2d) to revit building.

We'd like to see a set of construction documents that fully document a typical commercial building (like a movie theater or medical clinic or somethign of similar size) that was produced by Revit (and Revit Only).  We've asked around to resellers & never really get much of a positive reply.

We hear that a lot of new revit users can't use it for actual construction document production & instead use it for design/modeling/3d type coordination, but when it comes to making a 1-1/2" plan detail of a column/glazing/brick wall intersection or the like, they revert to autocad or do a hand sketch for true 2d drafting.  (May be silly - but thats what we hear ya kno....)

So we'd like to ask if there is anybody that has a full set of .pdf's that you could email us so we can see how it looks w/ a true Revit-only production attempt (a successful one).  That'd be great & much appreciated.  We'll print it out here ourself at 11"x17" or up to 30"x42" & look it over - w have a huge shredder, so I'll personally be sure to shread it after we see how other people use revit effectively.  :-)

Thanks to all.

Greg.

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I think you heard misinformation. It's used every day for construction documentation by thousands of people.

I don't know many that would ever revert back to autocad for anything.

I would say pick a guy in your office and download the 30 day trial and have him go at it. Go to dgcad.com and download the free video tutorials and buy the others. They are well worth it.

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Thanks for replying.....& i understand your point, but my original question still stands.....would someone be willing to share a .PDF set of complete cd's ?  We've asked for this before but never get it......so we just want to see a good set showing what revit can do.  If there are thousands of people out there using it daily for cd's the i'm sure somebody will be willing to shave & show off their work huh? I know if i ask the same question on an autocad forum that people would share acad example sets.

There is a couple of firms that we've discussed this with & they are new to revit maybe by a year or year & 1/2 & the DO use revit for maybe 90% of their cd's, but when it comes down to doing a small detail they DO use autocad to do it really simply & quickly......now I'm not saying that they are great at revit, or maybe not the brightest bulbs in the sack, but again, when we wanna see revit produced cd's we get nothing......

We do have the revit trial & are using tutorials & official autodesk training courseware, so we are on the right track so far....but we just wanna see how others do it on a daily basis.

Thanks all.

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You must understand peoples reluctance to post construction documents on a web or distribute them.  It comes down to intellectual property after all and its not really in the best interest of their company.

I don't have the authority in my office to freely distribute our construction documentation.  But understand I have used Revit on nearly 100 projects of medium to large scale over my 7 years of revit use all of which have been fully documented in revit including details.  Of which we've noticed reduced errors from autocad.  You'll find there are quite a few people out there who dump to AutoCAD at construction stage but this usually comes down to companies familiarility with the program, staff skills in Revit/AutoCAD and Managements commitment.  Putting together a decent library of components in Revit to your office standard is the most important and time consuming thing to do in Revit.  But once you have one your documentation improves as does the time it takes to produce.

Revit has most of the 2D documentation tools that autoCAD has but has the benefit of the model allowing you easier co-ordination.

Maybe rather than asking for a full set of documents ask people to post a PDF of one page of their revit created details.  Email me and I can send you something.

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Matildaleon

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Yeah - I hear ya - no problems.

but yes, I did expect some people to balk over the intellectual property thing, but thats an antequated idea in todays society - 'cause if you think of it for a second, first you probably have a disclaimer on your drawing sheets that states its your property & can only be used for 1 particular instance of 1 building construction etc etc....second you probably send drawings all over the place & not even think of it (building department / general contractor / consultants / owners / sub contractors / health departments / sub contractors / plans houses that store your drawings for release to baciasally any tom dick or harry that walk in the door / etc / ect)....and once it's in those peoples hands it's out of your control forever....so basically I'm asking for a professional courtesy from one architectural revit user to another....and I did ask for .pdf's that are generally un-modifiable and I stated I'd shred anything I printed, with the property rights of others in mind.....but again, no worries. 

Oh & sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't expect anyone to post anything to any website - I was expecting a little discussion first & then a direct send to my email......maybe I should have made that clear - so if that eases peoples minds too, then feel free to email me directly at: (gprice AT archimania DOT com)

Mr. Spot - thanks for your reply - I'll email you directly & maybe you can share a detail sheet or two or something similar.....Thanks to everyone.  :- )

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I'm almost in agreement with Mr Spot.  We have been using Revit Structure since RS3 was released in the UK (May 2006).   Within 2 months we issued 70 Drawings in PDF format for our Stage D Issue (Scheme Design).  We are continuing through to construction and 3 CAD Technicians now control over 200 documents from the single Revit Model.  As much as I'd like to share these documents, my company and the client may not be quite so keen but I will say, the Architect has been impressed with the quality of the output of our 2d documentation.

99% of the project documents are produced directly from Revit but you should not be worried about including AutoCAD details, as and when benifical.

We cut sections through the model and enhance them with 2d components when necessary.  We also add 2D parametric linework to sections through the 3d model which moves accordingly if you change an element size.  Say Rebar details drawn on a foundation which will change with the foundation size.

Saying that, you shouldn't be afraid to mix autocad drawings/details if this is a faster solution.  We import a few details as "Linked drawings", just the same as an xref, and drop them onto our project sheet inside Revit.

Eventually we may find we have all our 2d components/details available in ou Revit Libraries but until then we will use AutoCAD only if it is beneficial.

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This issue has bothered me since I started working on Revit a few years back.  With all due respect, construction documents are published documents that are accessible to others.  There is nothing substantial in saying its not in the best interest of their company.  I send out copies of construction documents to people all the time, as does every single person who has engaged a contractor in any actual building.  Providing the actual .rvt or dwg file is a separate matter.  Who here actually requires authorization before emailing someone drawings for bidding purposes?   I receive and use plans for existing buildings all the time, make copies of plans to use for all the time.  Not every project is some award winning "design".  Surely somebody has drafted up some boring Post Office plans with sections and details, and used Revit for all the aspects of construction documents.  I could find PDFS of drawings on REED Construction data.  I have put Public projects up that are on accessible to people who may build it.  

Anyone who has created Construction Documents for a public project, with plans that have been placed in PDF form out into the internet, being the essential documents used to actually build a building should have no reason other than vanity for not presenting them here to us to examine as a document of Revits total capacity.

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It's not just about intelectual property. Good money was spent creating those documents, and nobody who has spent that money is going to willingly just hand it over. And as Mr Spot mentioned, those of us who spend time on this site are not likely to have the authority to hand over drawings even if we wanted to. Just because we work on the projects doesn't mean we own them. If you would like, I can put you in touch with the owners of some projects. You can tell them that the CD's they payed for are public documents, and that there is no good reason not to give them to you. Please be sure to let me know how that goes for you.

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Sorry, forgot to address the OP. Documents created in Revit can be made to be nearly indistinguishable from any created in AutoCAD. There is a rather steep learning curve, so yes, some firms fall back on old skills and detail libraries to get projects out the door. It's something I have done myself. I don't like it, but you do what you gotta do.

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