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Ok, I have a historic building that had an addition put on in 1956. When the addition was put on, the original soffit, gutter, and part of the roof were cut to make room for the new building. Now, the addition is going to be removed and the original building is going to be restored. What I did was make three phases,(existing, selective removal, and new construction). I created a soffit and gutter as a mass and loaded it into the project and put it in place. However, what I created was what the soffit and gutter would have looked like originally, or what it will look like after it is restored. So, I went into the mass and created a void to represent where the 1956 building was cutting it. So, looking at an elevation in the existing phase with the 1956 addition hidden, there is a gap in the soffit/gutter. My question is, how do I go about changing what that soffit/gutter looks like in different phases? Is this even possible? I want the the void to be there in the existing phase, but I want it to be gone in the new construction phase. I don't want to have to demolish it and put a new one in because it technically isn't going to be demolished, just repaired. It is not just with the soffit/gutter either. I have made many elements in this matter where the addition had cut the existing elements. Does this make sense? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks
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I'm not sure if this is possible, but what if you had a separate gutter for the restored phase and the gutter with the void in it for the existing phase. The reason I'm not sure if this will work is I don't know how revit will handle and a co-incident mass.
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Hi blweisensel From what I can gather from your question, this is something we've run into alot too. For us it is often the reason that we cant integrate phasing into the models to the extent that we'd like to. Another problem can be when you need to cut out sections of roofs, change wall types between phases, and alter rendering finishes. So no answers from me sorry, other than (as you've suggested) elabourate modelling workarounds. If the project is complex then you'll pay for such a workaround bigtime as you get deeper into it. We generally avoid relying on phasing, using existing phase plans as guides only. Hope this helps!
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Here is a thought. Could you create a separate model of the existing building and assign phases as necessary. Link the model into the new work model and control the results using the filters in the links?
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we do lots of extensions in stages so am getting better at phasing. we find it lovely and will not workaround it. when we need to remove a part of a building, as mr spot has pointed out lots, we 'split' the pieces up, so a roof will be divided say, as will the fascia, gutter, soffit, walls everything. then you just demolish in next phase. this is not fully ideal i know, as the broken up pieces show like that in the first phase, but it is a small issue we find. we keep finding the key to revit as mr spot indicated years ago - make the model as you would the real building, ie the demolished bits are separated out. hope this helps!
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