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How would you go about modelling this type of stair? (see attached picture) <br /><br /> Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you!
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This is a basic Revit Stair. I suggest you read the Tutorials. Having said this have a look at this file of stair samples. It should have everything you need. http://revit.autodesk.com/library/Library/Revit%20Instruction%20&%20Help%20Samples/Revit%20Samples/Stair%20Samples.rvt
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I've tried the tutorials, but haven't had any luck. It seems like the Stair Samples you attached are switchback...where mine is a loop. I run into problems when drawing the stairs that overlap...I get a warning saying that lines should not overlap. Is there a way to get around this? Should I build it in segments? If so, how do you go about drawing a landing without a stair? Thanks a lot for your help...it's amazing to have a resource like the you and the other users of RevitCity.
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The Landing that is at the floor level cannot be part of the stair. You make it as part of the floor. Also use the Multistorey option to go more than one storey. Refer to the attached image. Please note that this is an in progress drawing, as such I have the last going at the same level of the stair and I have not cutout the stair voids, but you should get the idea.
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OK. I understand how you are creating the stairs you sent in the .pdf. But the stair that I need has more than one landing before it reaches the level above. We're using a system that has two landings before it reaches another level that it can end into. How do you do this? It doesn't work for me. Thanks again...sorry this is taking so long...I just hope we can figure it out.
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you have to do 2 separate runs. you cant trace over stairs. you can do a U-shaped set and incorporate the landing, but that's not advisable. make the landing your floor like psymon said and you will have less headaches. you can even do 3 separate runs if you like. same goes for circular. it will only go to 359 degrees maybe?
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to help me today. I hope this post helps other people as well. Thanks again!
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What would you guys do when there is a handrail involved? Draw it seperatly?
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Yes. That's the easy part! It really depends on the level of detail you want. We generally don't show them at 1:100 as they make the drawings messy. When we do stair drawings we generally draw at 1:20 and use detail lines rather than mucking around for hours generating custom balusters and rails as the ones that come with Revit are never what we want anyway. One problem with revit is because you need to create families, and to a certain degree are limited by this, you often draw something that is 80% of what you want, in order to use an existing or useable family, therefore the program controls the design or takes ages to generate a simple form that will only be seen in 2 views.
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I am having the same problem.I have a situation where the stairs do not use the floor as a landing. This is one way to engineer stairs, but it's not the only way. Closed loop stairs are fairly common ... why won't Revit let us draw them. I realize there would need to be some additional function added to the stair command to choose where the first riser is, but it's not there. Right now, I have created the stairs really close to accurate by leaving a 1/2" gap at the first riser. This isn't too noticable in plan, but in the sections it's very noticable. The railing and c-channels are all screwed up. There are many aspects of this issue that won't be addressed by a simple 'workaround' solution. This is on a real project, I can't just change the way the stairs are engineered. I have to draw a closed loop stair with landings and railing included. The way these stairs are drawn effects many different views [sections, details, plans, etc.]. HELP!!! This is a MAJOR flaw in my opinion. BTW> I spoke to an Autodesk Engineer about this and his answer/solution to the problem was to find a 'workaround' for the way it shows. Nice...
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Best advice I can offer is to make two separate stairs and align them. It works, but it's that dreaded "workaround" you mentioned. I honestly don't think this is anything they can fix with the program.
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I've been studying that file from psymon, and I still don't get it. Are they all separate sets of stairs? Did he create different levels on which to attach the floor?
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21547_stair.pdf
21552_Stair_Test.rvt