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Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:57:06 AM | Demolish a Reveal?

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Is this just another bug or can you really not demolish a hosted reveal?  This seems a bit silly to not be able to do this.  Anyone have a workaround if this is the case?

 

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Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:27:19 AM | Demolish a Reveal?

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I don't know why you are having a problem.  I've deleted both reveals and sweeps - horizontal and vertical.  Are you sure you are selecting them? .... Sometimes when I select a reveal, I actually get the whole wall.  I then use a crossing & filter out the wall.

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Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 1:53:21 PM | Demolish a Reveal?

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Demolish, not delete. Did you mean demolish?  Ans yes, I'm positive I'm selecting just the reveal (i tab through unstead of using the filter.)

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Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 3:22:16 PM | Demolish a Reveal?

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Sorry .... jumped off the train before it got to the station....  I read delete ... have not tried to demolish. 

 

Sounds like you really don't need a 3d element and if you do, why not put it in a phase.


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Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 3:35:13 PM | Demolish a Reveal?

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I put it in Existing Phase, but need it to go away in New Construction Phase... which brings us back to the original problem of not being able to demolish it.  Also, after looking at the properties, it would appear that I am not able to actually put the reveals into a specific phase.  Is anyone else able to phase reveals?

 

I need it 3D ONLY because I'm trying to fix another co-worker's model without redoing the entire thing. Telling the Project Manager "I can do it by tomorrow but I have to start the model completely over." after 1.5 months of already frustrating work is not an option at this point.

 

BTW: Tried demolish on a sweep and it will work fine. What's up with this?



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Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 6:25:00 AM | Demolish a Reveal?

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Easy work around - just add another phase for the reveal & show that in existing only.

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Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 6:45:49 AM | rkitect

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Quoting rkitect from 2007-02-26 15:35:13

"Also, after looking at the properties, it would appear that I am not able to actually put the reveals into a specific phase. Is anyone else able to phase reveals?"

 

I am also unable to phase reveals on my home computer as well making me think that this is not just me.

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Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 8:20:34 AM | Demolish a Reveal?

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WOW ... There is a problem here.

 

Still trying to help though .... Have you tried to phase the whole wall in a couple of special phases?  One phase shown along with the existing phase & with the reveal.  The other one shown along with new phase & without the reveal.

 

A poor solution but will it get you past your deadline? 


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Mon, Mar 5, 2007 at 10:22:59 AM | Demolish a Reveal?

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For anyone looking for a solution, what I found worked best in this case is the following:

 

I made the existing Reveals that WERE TO REMAIN AND NOT BE DEMOLISHED into the existing model and drew in the reveals to be demolished with detail lines on the elevation and used filled regions on the sections. You may think, well why model the reveals at all then?  Answer: it was faster to have the reveal function draw all the lines and auto align them than make 2+ clicks for every line showing.  Since the new reveals were not involved in the existing walls, I was able to put them in without any workarounds.

 

Good luck and let us know if you find a better solution. 


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Mon, Mar 5, 2007 at 10:43:35 AM | Demolish a Reveal?

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Demo a void? I guess I would add a sweep. The thing about demo is that something has to be removed. A reveal is nothing. If the exisitng wall is on the existing phase then the reveal is also on the existing phase. In the new phase add a sweep that fills in the reveal.

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Tue, Mar 6, 2007 at 11:34:35 AM | robinballew

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Quoting robinballew from 2007-03-05 10:43:35

"In the new phase add a sweep that fills in the reveal."

Does this work? I always got an overlapping elements warning and it never looked right (ended up having to lineworks the new sweep.

 

I understand your logic: how do you remove nothing.  In a construction sense, however, when a contractor sees "Remove Rustification Joint..." (ie: reveal) they will know to fill the joint to create a flush surface.  Unfortunately, there is no "Fill Reveal" function in Revit and the Demolish tool should be able to remove all elements from a phase (IMHO).


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Tue, Mar 6, 2007 at 12:03:22 PM | Demolish a Reveal?

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Works, the error is usually when 2 Sweeps are on top of each other. Not 1 Reveal and 1 Sweep.

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Tue, Mar 6, 2007 at 12:29:54 PM | Demolish a Reveal?

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Thanks, I'll keep it mind for next time!

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