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Hello all!
I am a french architect (sorry for my bad english) using revit at Vasconi's office in Paris.I am afraid It's becomnig really hard to draw or zoom in the projet (size 25 MB) even if I tried to build a "clean" model. Even worst, I can't expect to print an A0 format size in PDF without waiting one hour long. I can tell I am not saving time at all ... Revit seems unable to be used for a real professional work...
Is there anyone to tell me that revit does work well?
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First let me say 25MB is a small size for a project. We have multiple projects well in-excess of 100MB.
First of all what version of Revit are you using, as there is issues with the current build of 7.0 and speed?
I would only expect waiting that long for an A0 print to print to PDF if there were about 20 shaded with shadows 3d views on it.
What are the specs of your machine and how are you managing your file.... IE: worksets, design options, number of people working on the file?
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First let me say 25MB is a small size for a project. We have multiple projects well in-excess of 100MB.
First of all what version of Revit are you using, as there is issues with the current build of 7.0 and speed?
I would only expect waiting that long for an A0 print to print to PDF if there were about 20 shaded with shadows 3d views on it.
What are the specs of your machine and how are you managing your file.... IE: worksets, design options, number of people working on the file?Dear Mr spot,
I am really glad to ear such a thing... I must admit I don't have your experience on the topic. In fact we are sharing the project with worksets on revit 6.1, rendering views on revit 7, with 2 PC HP workstation bi-processor, graphic card quadro with 2000 pro OS(so I don't think the problem can be there, but maybe the server2000 we are working on through the network is not so good ... ) Design options : Hidden lines, detail level : coarse, visibility/graphism options...
Anyway could you tell me how you do manage files on revit in details. Worksets/Prints/PC configuration and so on. I think It could be really useful for everybody using revit (especially in france where nobody has a real practice on it)
Thank you very much for your answer anyway
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Dear Mr spot,
I am really glad to ear such a thing... I must admit I don't have your experience on the topic. In fact we are sharing the project with worksets on revit 6.1, rendering views on revit 7, with 2 PC HP workstation bi-processor, graphic card quadro with 2000 pro OS(so I don't think the problem can be there, but maybe the server2000 we are working on through the network is not so good ... ) Design options : Hidden lines, detail level : coarse, visibility/graphism options...
Anyway could you tell me how you do manage files on revit in details. Worksets/Prints/PC configuration and so on. I think It could be really useful for everybody using revit (especially in france where nobody has a real practice on it)
Thank you very much for your answer anyway
Valerian
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No worries.
I'll put something together later today for you to have a look at.
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Mr Spot,
Still hoping to have news about this...
For now I am just able to say that the open gl acceleration (after hours spending on finding the appropriate driver) is absolutly amazing... That is one good step : Revit 6.1 is almost speed. And I do think it will be much better with Revit 7.0 (We have also in this version the ability to use duel-processor with accurender and that's good news)
But I still can't say why printing delay is so huge. Maybe I am using the soft in the wrong way. Any idea?
Salut.
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Sorry,
I've been ill and haven't had a chance as of yet... Great to hear you are seeing improvements.
Regarding the printing issue:
Are the views shaded? As a shaded view with print as raster and will as such take a long time to print. If they are hidden line make sure you are printing in vector processing. Also, for the raster views you can tone down the quality a little bit, maybe medium or high, only when you are doing marketing or something would you really see the need for presentation quality.
When working on the project, if it still running slowly and worksets are enabled, only open the worksets you are using and need to see. Close any views that aren't being used... IE: go to window pulldown-->Close Hidden Views. You should rarely need more than 3 views open at a time...
Let me know if this helps?
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Well,
In fact you helped me very much to understand certain things about printing...
Strangly, the vector processing with hidden lines did'nt help so much but when, as you said, I tone down the raster quality (even with hidden lines) on medium suddenly the layout (size A2) prints in less than 30 seconds. Amazing regarding the fact that for the same view I needed about 10-15 minuts. Now I can be really confident in the future of the software in the office...
In what concerns worksets, I use it exactly in the way you mean for visibility mainly (much better than Hide/isolate button from my point of view) also because it's acting a little bit like layers. I always turn of views when I am working etc...
Anyway I am still looking for improvements regarding zooming fast for instance (better from the dynamic view panel) but also understanding better how worksets are dealing with the machines. I mean can we consider that the more we are working on the file the easier it's running?
Thank you for this little conversation...
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With regards to zooming, i have issues with the mouse scroll zoom, takes too long and is a bit of pain if you want to go back to a previous view...
Typically I use the ZZ command to zoom window and ZC to zoom previous and ZX to zoom extents. That way I find it easier to zoom exactly where i want without wasting processing showing the individual steps in the zoom as per mouse scroll... You might already do it this way? This is my preferred method anyway.
When working on a multi user project, you will find the more often you save to central (i prefer evey 30 mins) the quicker the saves will be... If you don't save to central for say 4 hours, it will take a long time (depending on the bulk of work that has been done) and there will be more chance of errors.
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