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Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 3:47:43 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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Has anyone been able to find or create a keynote .txt file for the new CSI format?  I've looked all over the web for this and have not found it.  We are doing a large project and it has been decided that we will use the new format.  Any help or direction would be greatly appriciated. 

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Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 11:30:58 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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FYI - You can create your own keynote txt files.

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Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 11:41:17 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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I have opened the file in excel just to familiarize myself with it.  It seems easy enough to create a new one based on the new format.  Would Revit recognize the system if you replace the original format notes with the new system (i.e. 02500.a01 to 02 05 00.a01).

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Wed, Nov 1, 2006 at 2:38:50 AM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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Revit reads directly from the txt file, it will recognize whatever you put in there.

You should look up keynoting in the Revit help menu, this will give you all the information you need to know about editing the keynote txt file.

From the help: "Keynotes are defined in a tab-delimited text file. The first portion of the text file is reserved for major headings/categories (the parent values) and the remainder of the file is for sub-headings/categories (the child values). A tab-delimited file requires the use of the Tab key to create spaces between data entries."


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Wed, Nov 1, 2006 at 2:03:13 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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Thanks a lot.

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Wed, Nov 1, 2006 at 2:27:56 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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I was wondering how Keynoting was done but I never had the opportunity to go find the info. Thanks for the info hjacobs. Smile

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Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 3:53:57 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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I don't have one that has Division folders and drills down completed yet, but this is the MF2004 Conversion...

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Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 5:28:33 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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I have been looking for the csi 2004 .txt file ready to go into revit, anyone know where there is a complete file i can download?


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Thu, May 3, 2007 at 8:54:44 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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Try this. I have gone thru it many times, but all of the bugs might not be worked out. Good luck.

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Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 9:28:58 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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thanks for this...

was just talking about this in our office and was planning to cut & paste from MF into .txt and make it work. thanks again to fellow revit users who are one step ahead of me...


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Fri, Aug 3, 2007 at 4:06:30 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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I made my own 46 division txt file also by copy/pasting from an existing document.  Super easy to do.  The hard (time consuming) part now is assigning these numbers to all the materials and detail components.

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Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 10:28:37 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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I found this on Autodesk's forums. It seems to be accurate.

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Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:22:08 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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Can anyone explain to me the point of using the CSI Format if we do not need to show the actual CSI Format number?

 

For that matter, would it simply be easier to create our own list?

 

A lot of this we do not even use.


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Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:05:29 PM | Keynoting and the new 2004 CSI Format

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One main point of using Masterformat is to be able to query the model based on logical industry standards and cross reference to the construction documents created for the architect.  without a link between the model information and the model graphics, we might as well be using AutoCAD.

Construction Spec are organized with masterformat, so when objects are placed in the model, the model can be queried for MF sections to provide a list of components that would need inclusion in the spec.  Another aspect is the assembly codes, or Uniformat numbers.  these are similar to that of masterformat, but more relevant to the QTO process, as well as "System" based components like walls, floors, roofs and ceilings.  These types of objects don't usualy fall into a single MasterFormat section.

 Omniclass is the next wave of data structuring which will be added into the models.  this will allow us to qualify and quantify in a neat and organized fashion, every attribute we use.  the nice part of this is that if I create the families, and you create other families, the attribute titles have the ability to be unified.  the rub is the GUID beneath the Shared Parameters, so it is critical for us to work towards a unified set of parameters which allow us to all work (and schedule) in the same column. 


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