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are these extensions any good in revit?
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See what I have written about it:
http://revitcity.com/forums.php?action=viewthread&thread_id=520
A lot about XML - in Revit there is only gbxml - green building xml
And .png is a good fileformat - but see what I wrote about Photoshop and all other bitmap programs - also Reviit - they have only 24 bits of color and that is not enough if you want a more realistic picture of reality...
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Here you can read more about gbXML:
http://www.xmlmania.com/news_article_1274-HVAC-Industry-Standardizes-on-gbXML-for-Building-Design-and-Engineering.php
And here:
http://www.squ1.com/index.php?http://www.squ1.com/ecotect/ecotect-home.html
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so i can import these files from ABS and use them in revit? also what i am getting from those articles about gbxml is that its just a standardized file type that companies will use to have their products in 3d form to be available to use in cad programs. is that correct? also is the extension for gbxml the same as regualr xml?
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I do not know much about ABS, but what I can see after a little Googling Revit does not support ABS but in the future it will.... That is what they say....
CAD and 3D is a mess! It is a Babylonian experience.... But there is a solution XML. But XML is relative new only eight years: http://www.w3.org/XML/hist2002
And the different software firms they do not want to cooperate.... They do want to have their own standard. It is a business war going on. And the users are not organized. And you as just a customer they do listen to, but....
And you can not vote for presidents of companies... if not a big shareholder...
To understand a little more of XML you have to Google yourself and have a look here:
http://www.w3c.org/
XML is a grammar!!!! It only tell you the rules to mark-up whatever subject you want and it tell you the rules how to organize the different marked-up items!
And then you use those grammar-rules to make a certain "langugage" like gbXML for green building XML or you use the rules to make a language to describe everything regarding 3D as X3D does. Or you can make a language to describe how to write math-formulas as MathML does and....
So I Googled for: ABS XML Autodesk
And found this:
Reply From: Peter Terwilliger {Autodesk}
Date: Feb/18/04 - 16:42 (GMT)
Addressed in ABS 2005 - Re: 2004-3-s8
Slawomir -
ABS 2005 has incorporated links to partners such as Elite, Lindab, Trane &
Geopraxis for duct sizing, fire sprinkler sizing, load analysis, and energy
analysis. These links give you the ability to export dimensions & data to
the analysis app then import the results back into ABS for decision making.
The data is available through xml and ActiveX apis that should enable you to
access it with any analysis software of your choosing in addition to any
spreadsheets or databases you use.
I hope this helps!
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You have to Google!
I Googled for: ABS Autodesk Revit
And found this It is both funny and sad I think...)
http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=338835
Posted by: numpty
Date: Jun/12/04 - 08:36 (GMT)
Does Revit come with a library of pipework fittings? I work for a water feature building firm - we need both buildings and pipework. Inventor Professional 8 comes with a library of parts with full 3D functionality but no buildings functionality. ABS cad has a pipework library & building functions but alas not full 3D ability.
Reply From: Tony Sinisi [Autodesk]
Date: Jun/14/04 - 17:30 (GMT)
Re: Pipework Ability of Revit
It will be a little while before Revit supports its own 3D piping, but ABS
currently has an extensive 3D piping library and capabilities. Could you
please expand on what kind of building piping systems you're work with.
Reply From: numpty
Date: Aug/19/04 - 16:07 (GMT)
Re: Pipework Ability of Revit
I'm working with a whole range (stainless steel, ABS, PVC, RidgiDrain - heck the list is endless).
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basically what i am asking here is if the dwg xml and png files that came with ABS can be used in revit. there are a lot more in ABS than revit so it would help a lot if i could import them. the reason i thought of doing this in the first place is that i want to be able to put plumbing and HVAC in my revit projects but i dont want to have to design the pieces myself. i found that ABS has all of these things and many more and i was really really hoping that i would be able to use them in revit. these are 3d objects in ABS and most are dwg so i was assuming they would import in revit. a lot of the things are in xml though so i was wondering if those things would also import. ABS has so many more items and textures than revit, i just hope that they can be used in revit. i guess ill probably just have to play with it to see if its gonna work. like i said the main things i care about are the plumbing and HVAC, the other stuff would just be icing on the cake, very thick, delicious icing!
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thank you mr gg for all of your help on this topic!
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Here is another link telling you that you live in a Babylonian CAD-world:
http://cadence.advanstar.com/2003/0603/fr0603_autodeskb.html
However, if these engineers' architect clients or colleagues are using any other design software solution--and this ironically applies as well to the small group of pioneers using Revit
--then ABS's object intelligence must be flattened out (and effectively dumbed down) to the DWG format for data exchange. This may not be a problem today, but may tend to leave ABS users in a digital cul-de-sac, longer term.
Autodesk insists it will continue to support and enhance ADT and ABS for as many years as there is customer demand, but it seems equally clear that something I'll predictably call Revit Building Systems (RBS) must be in the works-certainly building systems functionality was part of the pre-acquisition Revit Technology's product road map.
Autodesk is relocating some of its Building Solutions Division staff from New Hampshire, former home state of Softdesk and the ADT/ABS team, to Waltham, Massachusetts, where the Revit team always was and continues to be. The move, combined with the seemingly inevitable logic of a future RBS, has led to speculation about the number of developers Autodesk will keep committed to ADT and ABS (and how those developers will perceive ADT/ABS upgrade assignments versus Revit/RBS product assignments).
If there is a Catch 22 here, it is this: the longevity of and sustained benefit from any current user investment in ABS (as well as in its object modeling stable mate, ADT) will vary inversely with the speed at which the market migrates to BIM solutions such as Revit and the future RBS.
In other words, building systems engineers who seek competitive advantage should be using ABS right now; but how many years they will be able to enjoy that competitive advantage depends on how stubbornly the rest of Autodesk's A/E customer base chooses to resist better tools.
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