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Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 12:33:12 PM | Roof Edge Profile

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Here is what I'm trying to do. I want a crown moulding profile on not only the roof edge where the rafter tails are, but also where the gable ends are. I have succeeded in this with a fascia sweep with my profile and it looks excellent. However, what happens is that they don't match up right when the gable meets the tails. Right now I have it so it looks like a gutter which is not what I want. The roof slopes down and when it hits my rofile, it's horizontal. So, what I tried to do to get what I want was to change the insertion point on my profile to the furthest point on my crown moulding. This worked, except now my crown is buried in the roof and I can't see any profile at all. I also tried joining geometry which didn't work. What I still have is a line in my roof in elevation. I'm trying to get where the point of the end of the roof plywood, or roofing material, matches with the top edge of my crown moulding without any lines on the roof in elevation. Thanks, sorry for the long winded response Post edited on 2006-08-25 07:33:46 Post edited on 2006-08-25 07:34:48

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Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 12:53:58 PM | RE: Roof Edge Profile

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Framerman, Modify your trim profile to get rid of the horizontal line at the top. See the attached JPeg for an example. Yours, Aubrey

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Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 1:46:16 PM | RE: Roof Edge Profile

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Thanks for replying Aubrey. What I see there is the 45 angle on your profile. Is this what you meant? You posted a cornice which I'm looking for the crown moulding to be on top of say a 1x8 fascia board. I have my profile that incorporates the 1x8 and crown. I can get rid of the line on the roof from your method. I can say thats one problem solved. What happens though, is when I put the profile on the roof edge, the profile goes into the roof thickness. You have a flat fascia board which works there. I'm looking for something like a slab edge profile except on a roof edge instead. I like that cornice profile though. Gonna make one for myself. Never thought of doing it that way. Thanks for that one

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Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 1:55:40 PM | RE: Roof Edge Profile

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This is what I get when I try to apply the profile sweep

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Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 4:14:13 PM | RE: Roof Edge Profile

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Framerman, You're welcome! And yes, the 45deg angle is the key. You can modify your crown profile the same way. Thanks for the visual showing your problem. As I read the JPeg you are trying to miter a horizontal cornice with a diagonal cornice at a corner. I have worked around this by adding a small horizontal (as small as a 1/4", something that will do the job but not be noticable in the finished docs.) flat roof to turn the corner horizontally and then the miter to the diagonal has a path that allows the geometry to align. There is no way for identical profiles to miter at a horizontal/diagonal corner. You have to provide at least a small return. Have fun! Aubrey

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Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 5:52:30 PM | RE: Roof Edge Profile

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My apologies Aubrey, I'm either not explaining it right or I'm misunderstabding you. I hate to keep bugging you. I can mitre the ends where the rake and roof edges meet just fine. I have a problem with the core of the roof not disappearing so that I can see my profile of the crown moulding. My end product ends up inside of the roof structure where it disappears completely. Where the fascia runs diagonally down the rake and meets the horizontal fascia does require just a slight return there. The program has no problems doing that on my end. Thanks for your patience Aubrey

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Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 6:34:59 PM | RE: Roof Edge Profile

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Well...I have solved the rafter tail part by doing a two cut plumb cut for the tails and giving the value 0" for the fascia. I still have the problem on the roof slab edge though.

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Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 6:39:33 PM | RE: Roof Edge Profile

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This shows exactly what I want. But I'm having the problem up the rake end of the roof. Hips are fine. Gables arent. Any ideas?

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Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 4:08:27 PM | RE: Roof Edge Profile

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Well, Mr. Framerman, here's what you do. Take that roof slab you got there and make it thin, just like Aubrey said to do. Then figure out something else to do in place of the void left by the roof. Thanks Aubrey. After time passes awhile, I figure some things out. Thanks for your help. Just love extrusions. Marvelous ingenuity.

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