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Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 4:00:56 PM | Wall Types

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Question...how does everyone here do their wall types sheet in your construction documents? My firm is trying to come up with the best way of doing it and we aren't quite sure. Legends? Drafting Views? What do you all feel is the best way to do it? Thanks, Adam 3di Architecture

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Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 10:42:58 AM | RE: Wall Types

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No Responses? Alright...well...we are trying to do the wall type sheet using a Legend instead of a drafting view. Now the problem we have is that there is no way to easily dimension a legend....any advice on that? Anyone?

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Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 12:07:02 PM | RE: Wall Types

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Why ? Your asking this question because it's hard to do. If say you had different stud widths, you could do multiple columns for each stud and an X or use one column with the width filled in..... but again, why would you want to do all that work and make those errors? Using visual representations is a much better answer.

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Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 2:14:21 PM | RE: Wall Types

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I'm actually just now trying to figure out how best to do wall types, door types, frame types, etc. I'm trying the legend view for the wall types and using filled regions and lines to represent the materials. Wierdly enough, in a legend view, you can dimension lines but not components. So just laying in the walls as components doesn't work. While I love the door schedules, my frustration is that I can't figure out a good way to key door details to each door. We typically add columns to the schedule for jamb and sill details, and then also key those details in the elevation graphic of each door type. When you do the elevation view of doors as a legend, you can't dimension those door components or key in detail views of the jamb/head. Switch to a drafting view, and you can dimension and key just fine but have to redraw the door. Anyone figured a good way to do schedules?

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Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 3:37:10 PM | RE: Wall Types

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Yah Sweetiedarling that's exactly the issue we are having here too. It's such a pain in the rear end to redraw all of the wall types, door types, etc inside the drafting view when they come into the legend so nicely. What we are attempting to do now is use the legend and just lable the components not dimension them, while also including a wall type schedule on the same sheet which contains all of the information of the make up of the wall. On our first Revit project we just did the wall schedule without any graphical wall types and we recieved too many complaints from contractors. But yah...we dont know...any suggestions from anyone else?

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Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:51:01 PM | Wall Types

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I think this thread is too important to not find an acceptable solution.  I too am having difficulty creating a wall type legend.  My real problem is that I have two jobs that I need to do soon and if I can't figure it out, I may have to convert back to ACAD...but don't want to.  All I really want is the plan to show a wall type and then the legend to show it's construction.  I'm sure we're not re-inventing the wheel...someone must have an acceptable solution.  Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!!


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Wed, Feb 6, 2008 at 7:18:38 AM | Wall Types

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I am working on our first big major job in Revit.  So far we have created a legend and have redrawn the wall types so we can dimension them.  The problem I am facing right now is how to handle the finishes, such as gypsum board vs backer board with tile or sound batt vs no sound batt.  I have created different walls with the tile finish and walls with just gypsum board.  I am finding it to be bothersome trying to keep track of all the wall types this way.  How do you guys and gals handle this?  Do you just leave the finishes to the room finish schedule or do you make the walls like they are built?


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Wed, Feb 6, 2008 at 1:39:04 PM | Wall Types

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I was going to post this exact same question and here it is.  I tooam on my forst revit project and am looking for advice.  Regarding the question about tile finish with backer board vs. gyp.  We have had many battles on this subject regarding wall types and the smoothest, most error proof system I have seen is to leave it to general wall notes to indicate: Where gyp. board is called for in wall type assemblies:provide backer board behind tile, type 'x' in fire rated wall assemblies (UL# listed in wall schedule), green board gyp. board in high-moisture areas, etc.  The wall type can then just indicate "Gyp. Board" and all of the variations related to the finish are then takes care of by the finish schedule.  I have not figured out how all of this plays into revit yet though.

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