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Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 10:22:09 AM | Rotation Problem

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A coworker of mine has constructed a project so that her 'project north' is the same orientation as 'true north' (The whole project is at a bizarre angle such as 54.67). Now, I understand how to rotate a 90 degree project north to a 'true north'...but is there any way to rotate the entire project so that I have a new project north? I hope that made sense.

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Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 12:38:21 PM | RE: Rotation Problem

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Perhaps I'm missing the point, but if you change the orientation (in properties) to true north and go tool project position.......rotate true north, you'll be able to position the project at any angle. If you need to see another plan at project north duplicate the plan and change the orientating back to Project north. Not sure if this helps.........

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Thu, Mar 1, 2007 at 12:50:38 PM | Rotation Problem

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Having done several searches for the issue I was having, I have seen several people ask about the same thing, but to which nobody has offered guidance because of some confusion. Usually this question is phrased as wanting to rotate Project North and is met with a link to the tutorial video on True vs. Project North (great tutorial by the way), which doesn't address the need:

ISSUE: Building was drawn in one orientation, but having come time to layout sheets, I realize that I need it rotated 90 degrees. I don't care which direction Project North points (I'll assign it "up" later). I don't care which direction True North points (I'll "orient" the building later). I just don't want to rotate all views on the sheets so that my text, etc. is sideways through the whole project. Until I got the building going, I was unsure how it would fit on a page, but have done enough schemmatic design that I know now...and redrawing would be painful. Trying to select EVERYTHING and Rotate generates many errors and only allows a Cancel of the command.

RESPONSE: I managed with SOME success to PARTIALLY do it. Go to a 3D view (with everything turned on in Visibility Graphics) and fence-select everything. Go to a plan view (with everything turned on in Visibility Graphics) and Group it all together (I think you can add your Reference Plans/Lines to the selection, but do not grab Dimensions/Room Tags/etc). Rotate the group. Errors will occur, but you can cancel/agree through them. It will force you to Ungroup along the way, but you'll want that anyway so say OK. There you go. The dimensions and room definitions and room tags should all spin around with the building. A total of two of my families spun off the building, but they were easily repositioned. It leaves behind section markers and elevations (not sure if they can be grouped in or not). Beware, if you model is complicated, Revit takes several minutes on each of several of these commands...just hangin there.

I will know better next time to check sheet layout earlier, but I hope this helps somebody learning the same lesson I did.


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Fri, Mar 2, 2007 at 8:27:49 AM | Rotation Problem

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 I still think you need to look at the Project North / True North option. You do not want to rotate the model as a whole. You will have a hard time getting the orientation perfect. I bet you will not be able to dimension it very easily because your walls will be at a slight angle. Using the Project North / True North always works and keeps the integrity of the model.


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Fri, Mar 2, 2007 at 9:02:32 AM | Rotation Problem

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This is part of the confusion that I was talking about. I was rotating my building (as a whole) 90 degrees to change it's orientation in the Revit file only. I was not trying to rotate the actual model to True North or, for that matter, reassign Project Project. COMPLETELY separate from this, I am using Project and True North because my building is at a 30-some-odd degree angle on the site. ALSO completely separately, I have assigned Project North based on my office standard. I understand why there is confusion, it took me a while to figure out what I was needing to do and that True and Project North have nothing to do with it except as a solution-distracting way to describe the problem.

 PS. Unrelatedly, dimensioning an angled model should not be any different than dimensioning an orthagonal one. Revit's smart like that.


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