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Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 9:13:44 AM | Window family material wrapping at ends instead of inserts

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Hi guys,

Need your help. We have a window family at our firm that we use since it is very modular in nature. We are having a trouble with the way it wraps material though. The family is behaving exactly like it should in the floor plans in regards to wrapping. Materials in 3D view though is a complete other story. It seems to be doing the window wrapping in the floor plans with the 'wrapping at inserts' parameter, but the material wrapping in the 3d view with the 'wrapping at ends' parameter.... Another window family does seem to be working like it should in the same wall, adding to the confusion.

I've attached some screen grabs to illustrate the problem and attached a file with the wall window combination. Hope somebody can be of help since we can't figure out why it is behaving like this.



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Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 9:18:47 AM | Window family material wrapping at ends instead of inserts

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for some reason i can't upload a revit file directly. So the file is for download using this link: https://we.tl/t-P7mfY1oGkl


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Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 3:36:55 PM | Window family material wrapping at ends instead of inserts

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The position of the wrap at an insert is controlled by reference planes defined as "Wall Closure" in the insert family.


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Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:51:37 AM | Window family material wrapping at ends instead of inserts

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Hey WWHub, thnx for the reply. That was the first thing my college brought up as well. I have a reference plane defined as wall closure and the wall is wrapping to this plane in the floor plan (see attached picture). It is just that the brick material is not wrapping around, so all the 3d views look off.

 

It is just so weird that it is responding to the wrong wrapping parameter. Why could a window be influenced by the end wrapping instead of the inserts wrapping in the 3d view?


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Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:20:36 PM | Window family material wrapping at ends instead of inserts

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Look again at your images. (I am assuming this wall abuts an existing structure since you did not explain)

  1. In the plans, none of them show a brick exterior in the top portion of wall, only the bottom portion.  Explain
  2. Also in the plans, there seems to be a thin veneer on the exterior of these walls - an extra line there.
  3. In the first image, 3D view, you can not see any material wrapping on the inside or outside face - just white.  But in the other two images, the material that wraps on the interior and exterior has some sort of texture - almost like the color blotches of your brick.

Did you apply a seperate brick to get your coursing?


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Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 8:20:47 AM | Window family material wrapping at ends instead of inserts

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Sorry for the late reply. Was away for a few days.

1. the scale was to coarse to see the hatch on the top part of the wall. In the attached image you can see that it does continue on the top part.

2. It is an line of an underlying element. In the attached image (where i haven't selected the wall) you can see there is no veneer.

3. This is the exact problem I am puzzled with. It is indeed the brick pattern wrapping (i attached another image that shows the material more clearly). Why is the outside wrapping of the brick pattern acting like this. i would like to have the material wrap on both at inserts. But for some reason i can only have material wrapping at these windows when i use wrapping at ends.

Not exactly sure what you mean by "apply a separate brick to get your coursing", but I haven't used another brick and haven't used the paint function.  



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Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 8:56:41 PM | Window family material wrapping at ends instead of inserts

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#3 question was asked because on your original images, you could see a motled pattern but no coursing.  Your new image now shows the coursing.

What is your wall makeup?  The interior in plan has a hatch like masonry.  Change that material to something that is more distinctive.


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