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Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:56:46 AM | Wall intersections with floor layers for area schedules

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Hey all!

I have a question regarding wall intersections with floor layers.For our floor area schedules I would like to have an accurate amount. Therefore the walls on this floor should penetrate the finishing layer, lets say ceramic tiles in a restroom, so the area underneath the walls doesn't get counted (but all layers of the floor underneath do need to be counted).

Is it possible to have this done automatically or do I have to split the floor into two seperate floors? One with the floor finish and one with all the other needed layers like structural element, insulation etc?  Then model the floor finish around all the walls.

If i need two seperate floors and I move some walls, I need to manually adjust the ceramic tile/floor finish... That doesn't make sense to me in a Revit/BIM context...

 

Any help or ideas are more than welcome and obviously much appriciated !

Thanks in advance

 

Lucas


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Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 4:10:29 PM | Wall intersections with floor layers for area schedules

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Read these:  Applies to all junctions, wall, roof, floor....

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2016/ENU/?guid=GUID-1CCD1005-CBDA-4338-8D60-489095D4BB25

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2016/ENU/?guid=GUID-08E47F82-BFA1-4CAB-B2EA-6C8DC9049AD8

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2016/ENU/?guid=GUID-CCDEE011-2A5E-43AC-BD60-8F81CF432A6B


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Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 4:13:53 PM | Wall intersections with floor layers for area schedules

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BTW.... I suggest you do your floors without a finish and you do your floor finish as floors defined in each area.  This allows you to have carpet/tile or whatever finish in seperate areas and also allows you to set your patters up correctly in each area. VERY important for tile patterns!


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Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 4:27:27 PM | Wall intersections with floor layers for area schedules

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Thanks for useful info! I'll get into it!So if I understand correctly, you do advise using a seperate floor wor only the floor finishes and go around every wall like in the picture attached, right?



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Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:49:26 PM | Wall intersections with floor layers for area schedules

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Yes, you would outline each floor area that you may want a different tile pattern in.  I always had seperate areas at doors because you use a threshold there ... typically. 

IMPORTANT:  You don't have to sketch this area, that is a pain for non rectilinear spaces.  If you have your walls and doors as room bounding, you can use an automatic ceiling to create a sketch of that room boundry.  Edit this sketch so you can copy it to your clipboard.  Now you can delete the ceiling if you don't want it.  In your floor plan, you can create a floor and edit in your sketch of the room outline you just created.


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Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:33:39 PM | Wall intersections with floor layers for area schedules

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Great tip of using the automatic 'ceiling too' to create the interior room outlines and then copy and paste the sketched ceiling lines ! As floors for floor finish. This could be pasted as a fill pattern outline or as an independant floor component.


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Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:59:09 AM | Wall intersections with floor layers for area schedules

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I would simply take the area of each room from the room area schedules 

long with floor finish for that room and i am done.

also since door threshold are QS'ed as linear Mt get the door width as threshold lenghts


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