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Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:59:59 AM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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So I have linked two models into my projewct to begin work. One is architectural, one is structural.

I can see all the architecture in the Floor Plan views but I cannot see ANY of the steelwork from the structural model. I can see the steel beams in section but they will not show on Plan View and I need to show them on my end drawing.

Detail Level is set to "Fine"

I have made sure the cut plane is below the steel work as well. 

I have set discipline to various settings and none show the steelwork.

All is switched on is Visibility Graphics.

I'm clean out of ideas. Anyone else come across this?

 

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Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:17:32 PM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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You say plan.... well you won't see any beams above and you probably have a floor so I doubt you will see any beams below the floor.

If you correct that, you need also to study up on vg settings for steel framing as well as for linked models.


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Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:50:41 PM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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Workset turned off ?

Are you seeing columns but not beams ?

View Range and cutplane will definatly have an impact.

Change the view to wireframe and set the view range depth to be unlimied just to see if it's where you think it is.

Make the floor transparent . . . so you can see through ti.

Structural plans usually have a low cutplane and view range depth that goes lower than the level of the plan WW said. You can't see what's below the floor.


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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:16:02 AM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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Thanks Guys, I tried all that but to no avail.

 

The cut plane is correct. I have placed a piece of ductwork at the same level and adjacent to the steel beams. The ductwork is visible in plan but the steelwork is not.

 

Strangely I can see the steel columns but not the beams. All VG settings are on. Switching to wireframe doesn't make a difference.

 

All the beams are simply not on my plan and it isn't a workset or visibility issue. I cannot see why they wouldn't be showing apart from some sort of glitch.

 

The beams are udner the "Structural Framing" category. Have either of you had issues seeing these in a floor plan?

 

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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:55:31 AM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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Change the view discipline to be structural. Turn off all categories except structural framing. Change view range top and bottom to be unlimited.

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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:17:09 AM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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Hi there,

 

I did exactly as you said. Opened the Revit Link in question, set up a floor plan and set all view range settings to unlimited. Set it to "Fine" detail level and turned off everything except Structural Columns and Structural Framing.

 

I can see the columns clear as day, but the structural framing they are supporting is still invisible. Baffling.

 

I can see them in sections, elevations & 3D. Just not Floor Plans. The one view I happen to require them most in!


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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:06:55 PM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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I don't see that you set the view discipline to structural as DGCAD suggested.

I would also check under vg, the linked model vg settings.



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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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Make a brand new floor plan view of the level from scratch. Do not apply any view template and make sure the worksets are all on. Then do the view range thing. Anything short of that I'll need to open the project and fix it for you.

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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:19:22 PM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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I have changed the discipline to Structural as well.

 

I also tried the new floor plan as you say and still no luck.

 

Weirdly, I am able to create a Ceiling Plan that shows the steelwork exactly as it should be. No problem there.

 

It's just Revit refuses to show structural framing in Floor Plans. I am using Revit MEP as well which I probably should have mentioned. Is it a known issue that structural framing will not be shown in Floor Plans?

 

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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:44:54 PM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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Ok I gotta leave this thread. This is a case of understanding the difference between an arch floor plan and a structural framing plan and view range settings and cut planes. To do what your trying to do (show framing from above in an arch floor plan) you'll need to add custom drop tails to the beam families so they get Cut in your arch floor plan. Bye for now . . . . I did a Youtube video years ago called The Ultimate Framing Plan.

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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:55:23 PM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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I understand the difference and I watched your video of the "Ultimate Framing Plan".

 

You didn't show how to modify the family so that the beam appears in the layout though.

 

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Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:01:11 PM | Can't see Structural Framing from attached Revit Link in any Floor Plan

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Hmmm ok here's the beam family. Open it up and see. It has a model line that dangles down and uses the paramter 'Stem Length'. This 'stem' will extend down into the 'cut plane' below so it shows up in the floor plan below. The stem has two parameters. length and On / Off for visibility.

 

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