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Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:28:00 PM | Door Double Scheduling

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I have a door family that I created that has a door leaf family inserted into which can change to have a half lite, full lite etc.  I have 2 copies of this leaf in the family so that I can have an option to show the door closed or open in 3D becasuse we do walkthroughs.  My problem is when I add a tag to the door it schedules it twice and I'm assuming it's because I have 2 leafs in the family.  Is there a way around it?



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Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:54:58 PM | Door Double Scheduling

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After doing some research myself it appears its scheduling the nested family because it's under the door family and I should switch it to generic however I have a lot of different families and I would rather not gp back through and spend all the time changing the family category and reloading into the family and back into the template.  Is there any way around this?


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Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:58:26 PM | Door Double Scheduling

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It sounds like you did the leafs as doors and they are a shared family.  Why?  The door should be the host family and that you want to schedule.  The shared parameter you use to control your leaf you may want to schedule but really no reason to schedule the leaf.


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Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:31:01 PM | Door Double Scheduling

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I created a door leaf as a generic family but I wanted it categorized under Doors so I changed the family type and then created a door family where I made the frame, swing etc. and loaded my leaf into it.  Obviously that wasn't a great idea.


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Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:37:59 PM | Door Double Scheduling

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If that leaf family is NOT shared, that should fix your problem.


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Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:51:47 PM | Door Double Scheduling

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Shared is checked unfortunately and now when I UNshare it I can't load it back into the family because it says "You cannot load a non-shared version of the family becasue a shared versions of it is already loaded" .  Do I need to delete the family then reload it in?  That would not be good for me!


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Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:15:52 AM | Door Double Scheduling

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I don't have any solutions for that.  Is it that hard to do? 


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Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 3:05:24 PM | Door Double Scheduling

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Sorry, I think you have to bite the bullet.

That happened in our door families as well.

Any nested family in the door frame families (which populate the door schedule), has to be created from generic template.

The only way to work around it is do followings:

1. Move one door tag out a little bit, then you will see two tags at one door.

2. Keep the door tag for the door frame (which populate the door schedule), and rename it as the way you want to be shown in the door schedule, such as A101.

3. Rename the other to J101 (as Junk), hide it in the view. Some of our old door families even populated three or four door tags. The problem is you don't know which door tag is the right one, or you can just ignore it, which I don't like.

4. Then, you will get a door schedule with two groups of doors, one started with A and the other J. Split the schedule to two, move the Junk one out off the sheet. Then you have to do the whole thing in each project.

 

Here is what I did: (I did it several years ago, might not exact).

1. created a new nested family with the same name as for the door leaf from the generic family template.

2. Copy and paste the old door leaf into that new generic family.

3. Re-load it into the door frame family and click the "overwrite". Then you will get the clean one.

 



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Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:28:16 PM | Door Double Scheduling

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I'll try that work around to get it as a generic model.  I should have paid more attention before I moved forward with it!  Live and learn!


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Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:20:16 PM | Door Double Scheduling

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I am wondering that if you give the new not-shared model a different name if then after loading into the host, can you just swap the shhared with the non-shared then remove the shared from the host?


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Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 4:01:15 AM | Door Double Scheduling

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Yes, that works.

Now we say there are two door families, AA with nested leaf using door template, the other BB with nested leaf using generic template.

You can load BB into the project swap the old AA with BB, after all done, then delete AA from the project.

Or work in the host family, "A" frame + "A" leaf for example. You can keep the "A" frame and swap the leaf "A" with leaf "B" which was built with generic template, just delete leaf "A" from the host family, then reload it into the project. Since all shared parameters in the host family will populate the schedule.



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Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 6:03:21 AM | teafoe5

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Quoting teafoe5 from 2017-03-02 15:51:47

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Shared is checked unfortunately and now when I UNshare it I can't load it back into the family because it says "You cannot load a non-shared version of the family becasue a shared versions of it is already loaded" .  Do I need to delete the family then reload it in?  That would not be good for me!

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Hi,

Just go to the project browser, under families, then remove the loaded leaf family (right click and delete), then re-load the leaf family again without shared option checked.

 


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