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Fri, May 12, 2006 at 2:08:05 PM | Revit recommendation

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Hi folks, I am seriously looking into purchasing Revit for my interior design office but have not been able to get good information on the use of Revit on custom furniture and custom cabinetry design (which makes up the bulk of my drawing needs). I see that there are tons of libraries with existing cabinets, but my designs are typically "one of a kind". I am trying to weigh the benefits of Revit over just getting AutoCad or Autocad LT. I am presently hand drafting everything. Any help on this subject would be greatly appreciated. Fred

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Fri, May 12, 2006 at 4:44:10 PM | RE: Revit recommendation

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Revit is build to make the creation of customized elements very easy and user friendly, take a look into the family editor, you can design everything and customaze any piece of furniture

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Fri, May 12, 2006 at 8:11:52 PM | RE: Revit recommendation

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Thanks, I'm just not convinced that the program will save me drafting time given that I will have to redesign (and therefore redraft?) everything every time. The rendering features are not that appealing to me since I do my own hand renderings. Doing the base perspectives will be helpful however. From the Gallery on this site it seems that the main use of this program is for rendering. Is this the case? Fred

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Fri, May 12, 2006 at 8:50:54 PM | RE: Revit recommendation

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rendering is really a by product of this program. a convenience added for users the main purpose of this program is information modeling now everyone has their own opinion of what that means and to some it includes rendering i would go to the Autodesk Revit site read what they have to say or maybe one the more advance users will shed some light on this subject for you. HTH

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Tue, May 16, 2006 at 6:33:15 PM | RE: Revit recommendation

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Revit can be a lot of different things. The rendering aspect is the flashy one played up on the web sites. It can make tables (schedules) of everything although the wall areas are not accurate for my standards. All the info can be sliced and diced every way. We do interior perspectives with it. The limit will always be your interest, time, money to build the model and there is a distinct benefit to reusing everything. The parametric functions can work to make a single item work for multiple items - like a round table that can be 30 inches dia and 54 inches dia. It really is for buildings however... Christian

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Tue, May 16, 2006 at 8:44:28 PM | RE: Revit recommendation

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Considering that AutoDESK is really pushing Revit as their building application you may want to consider the following. If you work with architects and they design the buiding in which your furnture will be used, you could see how your pieces look in the space long before you have to produce shop drawings. That is if there using Revit. You can mock up the basis shell of the cabinet, table, etc fairly quickly and with the camera get perspective shots of the pieces in real time. As others have indicated the family editor can be used to create any number of types within a family, so you cna pick and choose which one looks and works best quickly. The upfront work will take time, but once you build up a library, editing family will allow you to change items to suit your needs. You indicated that a lot of what you do is once off, but a table is a table, and the base model chould be used over and over again. In my last job I used Revit to design all the custom cabinetry on several jobs. This included custom bathroom, closets etc. Its in a cheap application, but if you can swing it, go for it.

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Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:17:52 PM | RE: Revit recommendation

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Hmm, i might add a few comments about this. Revit is not designed to create detailed small forms. Yes it can do small items to a reasonable amount of detail, but you'll find limitations with curves being faceted, and tiny detail (lines less than 2mm) can't be created. Also the other limitation is with regards to the modelling tools to create the furniture. In revit you are limited to solids and voids created by blend, sweeps, extrusions and revolves. With furniture i'd imagine you'd need a loft tool and blended sweeps etc, which although they can be created, it really is a bit of hassle and stuffing around. For modeling this type of stuff i'd suggest AutoCAD 2007 (as the modeling tools are more advanced). Revit is more about documentation, design visualisation and co-ordination than about 100% accurate modeling. If you wanted to see how your furniture/interior design would appear on a whole then revit would be a good place to do it as then it would be very easy to create documentation for construction from this. Also, the furniture models created in ACAD could be easily imported into Revit for visualisation. HTH.

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Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:43:40 PM | RE: Revit recommendation

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I'll have a crack at this too. I agree with Mr Spot that for what you design Revit is not "fine enough" to work in the kind of detail you require. A couple of options may be- 1/ Inventor. I have seen lots of nice work using this program for furniture design 2/ AutoCAD (particularly 2007). I teach Cabinet Making apprentices Autocad and they do some nice work on it & I have produced some really nice renderings from AutoCAD (see atttached) Please feel free to email me if you want some more info on 2D/3D AutoCAD for Furniture Design.

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Wed, May 17, 2006 at 1:15:26 AM | RE: Revit recommendation

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Thank you all for your responses. Quiller. Any chance you can post a sample of the cabinet drawings (a more intricate one if pos.) so that I can see? This would be very helpful for me to understand what some of the other posters mean with "limitations". In regards to Geoffy's shelf drawing, is this something that could be drawn fairly easily on Revit? It seems like a very simple drawing (to hand draft anyways). And would really take me no time at all to draw this up manually. However if with a click of a mouse I can get sections, details and a perspective, that certainly would be a time gain. Thanks Fred

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Wed, May 17, 2006 at 3:02:40 AM | RE: Revit recommendation

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The furniture element posted by geoffy could be create in revit in about 3-5 minutes as its a fairly simple form that could be created with a series of extrusions. When i think of difficult items i'm think more of items like cushions, free form chairs, soft furnishings... These items are near impossible to model accurately in Revit.

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Wed, May 17, 2006 at 3:19:39 AM | RE: Revit recommendation

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I still think all things considered that Inventor would be the better option- there are a number of design houses using this software exclusively for furniture (all types) design

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Thank you all for your responses.

Quiller. Any chance you can post a sample of the cabinet drawings (a more intricate one if pos.) so that I can see? This would be very helpful for me to understand what some of the other posters mean with "limitations".

In regards to Geoffy's shelf drawing, is this something that could be drawn fairly easily on Revit? It seems like a very simple drawing (to hand draft anyways). And would really take me no time at all to draw this up manually. However if with a click of a mouse I can get sections, details and a perspective, that certainly would be a time gain.

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Fred

Fred, do you have an e-mail addess I can mail what I have.

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