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Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 3:10:28 PM | Manage Large Job and Printing Issues

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We started a large job in Revit a few weeks that involves an entire city block. I modeled the existing buildings, one per project, and then I linked all the drawings into one project. I did this for a number of reasons, but mostly to save space and time, and considering all the floors were not the same, it made the job easier. We have now moved on to renovation the old building and we’ll be adding a 260 unit apartment building, a parking garage, green area etc, etc. There will be extensive remodeling to the existing buildings and as you can imagine the drawings are getting quite large. We also broke up the new building into the different units, 1 bed, 2 beds etc and linked then into one drawing, again to save on space and time updating. I also created worksets so we could both work on the same drawing at the same time. Not an issue yet, but we’ll probable make use of this in the near future. All went fine up until we tried to print out a drawing. At 2.6 meg we had to reduce it to its lowest form (draft version) and lowest quality to get it to print. I need to know if a few things: 1. Is the manner in which we set up the project (linking drawings to a central place) a good/sound idea? 2. If not, any ideas on improving? 3. How can we speed up printing? 4. Will George Bush get back into the white house?(Only answer if you can keep it to less that three letters)

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Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 7:04:16 PM | RE: Manage Large Job and Printing Issues

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We setup many of our large projects the same way. When there are multiple buildings we have found linking to a central location to be the best option. However, try to keep all your sheets etc. in the individual files (not the linked files) as the file with all the combined information will become large, bloated and slow. I guess the main issue with linking files is information cannot be scheduled in the linked file. Each would have to be done separately. Which is why we don't link units. We use groups for units, however groups are extremely temperamental so its i good idea to have a really good understanding of their short falls. IE: don't mix groups, don't include doors in groups etc. If you follow the above it should be a lot quicker. It sounds like your doing it all from the combined file? 4. CF?

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Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 10:14:11 AM | RE: Manage Large Job and Printing Issues

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Mr Spot, Thanks for the input on the real issue. We had a go at your #4 answer and so far we all came up blank. Can you give us a hint on CF? Cheers..........Alan

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Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 5:55:26 PM | RE: Manage Large Job and Printing Issues

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No worries Alan, Being an Aussie George Bush is a non-issue. As such CF=Care Factor...

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Wed, Apr 6, 2005 at 9:48:13 AM | RE: Manage Large Job and Printing Issues

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We setup many of our large projects the same way.

When there are multiple buildings we have found linking to a central location to be the best option. However, try to keep all your sheets etc. in the individual files (not the linked files) as the file with all the combined information will become large, bloated and slow.

I guess the main issue with linking files is information cannot be scheduled in the linked file. Each would have to be done separately. Which is why we don't link units. We use groups for units, however groups are extremely temperamental so its i good idea to have a really good understanding of their short falls. IE: don't mix groups, don't include doors in groups etc.

If you follow the above it should be a lot quicker. It sounds like your doing it all from the combined file?

4. CF?Mr- Spot or whom ever can answer

I thought you might be able to help me out on a similar issue
- What is the best option if you have Units(apartment units) that actually occur in multiple buildings? I like the idea of linking the buidlings into a central file but I was also going to link the units into the building so if I had changes in any of the units it would automaticaly change them in all the buildings. What do you think?
P.S. why are Doors or Groups within groups a bad idea?

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I thought you might be able to help me out on a similar issue
- What is the best option if you have Units(apartment units) that actually occur in multiple buildings? I like the idea of linking the buidlings into a central file but I was also going to link the units into the building so if I had changes in any of the units it would automaticaly change them in all the buildings. What do you think?
P.S. why are Doors or Groups within groups a bad idea?

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Amanda



my exact question ! anybody know ?

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Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 5:29:51 PM | RE: Manage Large Job and Printing Issues

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Amanda, This thread is quite old and groups have always been a little fragile to work with. I would group doors now with walls. As for linking a unit into a building which is then linked into a site model. It depends on how you want to portray the information. For instance. Now you can schedule components of linked files in the main file, great. Problem being is you cannot currently place items such as room tags etc in the main file and have them recognise the boundaries of the other linked files. This effectively means that you'll end up with drawing sheets in each separate file... If you don't mind this then give it a go. Personally, i'd probably link the buildings in but not the units. For those i'd create a group and save it out as a rvg file for use in the separate buildings. Please remember to disallow joins where walls finish in the group to avoid inconsistencies and to only include walls/doors/windows in the group. Fitout information i'd group separately. HTH.

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Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 5:00:05 PM | Manage Large Job and Printing Issues

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Mr Spot,

I have a major problem I am facing write now. Everything said in this thread has really hit exactly on what I was looking for except, I am working on a renovation of an existing Hospital 8 stories high. We have each floor in a seperate file and all of them referenced in what we are calling the globle file. The Globle file is 4.82 MB in size. We have created all the sheets in the global because of it being one building and has to be presented to the client as such for BIM purposes. The problem I am having is that we need an updated dwf or pdf file of the set on a regular basis. Anyone wanting to view the set and where it is today can simply open the dwf file and look through the set much faster than opening each file. Evertime I am asked to print a number of dwf's, my Revit program can't handal the load and crashes. Is there anything I can do about my printing problem?


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