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Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:03:51 PM | How to create toggle-able annotation into a face based family for plan view only

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Anyone,

Please help! I have been trying for two days at work trying to create a family for a fused and non-fused electrical disconnect.  The box that shows in 3D view is fine for 3D and for elevation views of the project itself.  But when I switch to plans views of the project the box needs to disappear and our company's standard annotation needs to appear with a "F" inside the box that can be toggled on and off and will automatically rotate to be vertically readable on a document no matter what angle the wall is.  Next, I need it to have the ability to have 5 lines of text that accompany the fused disconnect symbol so we can input the poles, wattage, voltage, switch voltage and if water proof or not.  Those also have to be able to toggle on and off for when we only need to use 3, 2, 4, 1 or all.  This text also needs to remain vertical regardless of wall angle.  

We've sent this off to our tech support and what they gave back didn't work to what we needed.  It's starting to become an annoying and costly endeavor.  Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

 

Thanks in advance!


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Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:24:42 PM | How to create toggle-able annotation into a face based family for plan view only

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All Revit families can be built to show model elements in selected view types and symbollic linework in other selected view types.   For instance, door families are usually built to show 2D linework in plans and 3D model elements in all other views.  Your family can be built in a similar fashion.  You can read about this in your help - here.

 

Trying to build a family that will show elaborate information as you have listed will never work for you at this time.   The better process is to learn how to assign instant and type variables to a family and then how to create a tag to show that information in a 2D view.  

 

To help you use tags, learn how the 'tag all not tagged' process works.


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Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:55:26 PM | How to create toggle-able annotation into a face based family for plan view only

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Thanks for your attempt at steering me in th right direction but after trying some of those things and showing to my engineers they said, they want it to look and act like it has in AutoCAD for the last 2 decades we've been using that!  The blocks we've created and have been using for a long time are the way they want them and the engineers don't accept the fact that Revit doesn't behave like AutoCAD they're saying make it work!  I've attached a screen shot of the way it's supposed to look and the way a generic annotation looks in Revit.  That's fine!

 

The files attached show; 1. How the generic anno looks and the way we want it.

2. Shows what the the current familes plan view anno looks like.

The problem is quite clear and there must be some formulaic work-around to this problem.  If we can forget the rotating part and just get the anno family to follow the devise as shown on the walls, and be able to turn on/off the ones we don't need when the engineer wants it or not, that's what we're looking for?  Any additional help would be awesome!

Thank you!



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Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:30:16 PM | How to create toggle-able annotation into a face based family for plan view only

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Creating the correct tag and family can look just like that image.  Obviously, the rotated views will be different - correct?

 

I will add that wanting Revit to look exactly like CAD is foolish.   We use Revit for a reason, it is far superior to using CAD.  We have learned that the thoght process of "we have always done it that way" is a poor process.  Providing the correct, easily read and understood information is the main requirement.  The added benefits of scheduling, coordination and ease of documentation far outway such archaic requirements.

 

Good luck... CAD nay sayers often defeat acceptance of better software at a loss for the office.


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