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Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:25:05 PM | Light Fixture on Sloped Ceiling Displays incorrectly in section

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I'm working with a sloped ceiling applied to the underside of a run of stairs. I managed to work with a light fixture family to get it to host to the slope of the ceiling by unchecking the "Always Vertical" in the family, but when it is cut in section, it displays the entire object. Why is this glitch occuring? How can I get around it?



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Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:30:32 PM | Light Fixture on Sloped Ceiling Displays incorrectly in section

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Search your HELP for 'cuttable'.


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Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:58:24 PM | Light Fixture on Sloped Ceiling Displays incorrectly in section

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Help is not helpful. The light fixture should be able to be cut right? If this is considered a generic model, fine, I get it not cuttable. Thanks Revit. But is there a good solution for getting around this limitation? I'm looking for some kind of solution here because this will need to be cut, it will need to be a light fixture, and it will need to be part of the sloped ceiling. Any suggestions?


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Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:18:11 PM | Light Fixture on Sloped Ceiling Displays incorrectly in section

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No - as it says in the HELP - Light fixtures are NOT cuttable.

 

If a 2D section, you can add a detail to your view in place of the can fixture.   One is already in the library.

 

Although I hate this, you can add the detail view to your light family and turn off the solids in left/righ/front/back views.

 

 



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Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:37:01 PM | Light Fixture on Sloped Ceiling Displays incorrectly in section

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Got it. Not helpful for lights to not be cuttable. Very troubling that Autodesk didn't work this out sufficiently. In the meantime I will change the family to a generic model so that the majority of family information functions correctly. I can sacrifice it's categorization as a light fixture for our LOD, but hopefully Autodesk gets around to fixing this limitation. Otherwise it could create a lot of headaches for higher LOD with projects that have sloped ceilings. Yikes! Very unfortunate, but I'm glad it's a Revit problem in this instance and not a model process problem. Thanks for clearing that up. Cheers.


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Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:49:12 PM | Light Fixture on Sloped Ceiling Displays incorrectly in section

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I don't believe autodesk overlooked this.   I think it is intentional.  Except for railings, the non-cuttable families are basically complete - made items and Revit is not concerned with how they are built.   Making those cuttable just means aditional internal elements that Revit would have to deal with and that is potentially a lot of overhead. 

 

Notice that cabinets (casework) is cuttable but furniture is not.  Although you might buy casework, it is often part of construction whereas furniture is not.   It might be 'neat' to see these items cut but it is not productive in our industry.


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Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:43:11 PM | Light Fixture on Sloped Ceiling Displays incorrectly in section

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Furniture makes more sense to me than lighting. The latter come up more often for designers and it probably wasn't thouroughly anticipated by Autodesk. I've come across more discussions on this topic since posting and it looks as though someone at Autodesk has received the feedback. Hopefully that translates into a solution in our lifetime! Cheers.


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