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Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:54:36 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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Just a brief description of whats making me pull my hair out. within my model, each wall type has an NBS parameter with the NBS reference typed in. Some of my walls have been made into parts to cut them around steels, make cladding protrude further, create asthetic openings etc. The problem is now they are parts I can't tag them for the NBS reference for that wall type in my sheet views. I thought about showing both original and parts in the view but this would cause more confusion on site. ultimately i have to show them as parts. Also looking into if its possible to tag a hidden item (eg i could show both and hide the original if i could tag it) but not having much luck with that either. Any work arounds or tips would be greatly appreciated.

 

 


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Thu, May 5, 2016 at 6:25:56 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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I don't get it. You say in some of your building wall planes, you have used varying wall types as necessary by the design requirements (e.g. solid walls between rooms and linings around columns) but in elevation you cannot extract the nbs parameter data from some of these walls in order to populate a tag that draws uot the nbs parameter?

Have you filled in the NBS parameter for EVERY wall type in the project including linings? If you have then you should be able to tag them.I would normally tag each and every wall type in plan within each and every wall segment.

Are you using the same tag? Is the tag looking for the right nbs parameter?


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Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:17:09 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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Thanks for replying. Every wall type has an NBS parameter filled in. The problem is when I "explode"  the wall into parts (and it needs to be exploded into parts in some instances)  I can no longer tag the NBS parameter of the original wall. 



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Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:23:11 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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You lost me again. You can't explode a wall category in Revit. Are you drawing your walls using 2D lines from AutoCAD or something? We are taling about Revit and not AutoCAD aren't we?


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Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:41:59 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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Make a wall into parts.  See this link

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2014/ENU/Revit/files/GUID-2B21C6A4-203C-4F85-B613-D2432AD95595-htm.html

 

Once it's made into parts you can manipulate the individual layers, to extend further ffor example But you cant tag information that's in parameters before it was made into parts. 


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Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:56:03 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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oh. you are using parts. Never used them, I just create a separate wall type and use that instead so I can tag them.

This what Autodesk says about parts - which I read you can't tag. Which kind of makes sense as they are all from one wall type.

 

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2014/ENU/?guid=GUID-DA150C6B-996C-4C70-9E8C-3C536C232851

 


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Thu, May 5, 2016 at 8:16:07 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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Yeah can't do that in this scenario. If we did a wall type for each layer the schedules would be rediculously huge, and it would take an unreasonable amount of time drawing a eeach layer when you could do all as one wall type. the contractor also some walls are self insulated panels. The contractor orders these panels based on the wall lengths. If there was several layers it would mess around they're ordering process. Again thanks for responding though.  It's a problem I've that's left me stumped for a while and been trying to work out a work around. 


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Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:14:27 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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I don't know if this is still open, but I just found the answer. If in visibility setting you select both you can tag the wall assembly and still show the parts. It's working for me so far.


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Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:26:00 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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You just need to create a Parts tag by editing your typical wall tag, saving a new copy and changing its family category to parts tag as well as change the label to be associated with the mark parameter. Then enter your info into the mark category of your part and when you tag it the info will show in your tag. you can then use that to tag the different parts and it will look exactly like the wall tag.



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Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:38:04 PM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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Heres the tag itself



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Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 10:40:20 AM | Is it possible to tag wall info from the original wall, when a walls in parts

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thanks palowe, unfortunately that wont work in this case either. showing both will show walls cutting through items they shouldn't which is why they were made into parts in the first place. Would let you tag but would cause more confusion looking at the view. marmiketin1 that sounds like a good solution. The family you uploaded is in a newer version of revit than mine (the project is in 2015) but think i can follow what you outlined. The only concern is the info i want the tag to show is already in a separate wall parameter. Ideally i want the tag to refer to this rather than the mark value otherwise I'd have to go round each wall and put that information into the mark value. Plus I'd have walls with duplicate marks which may cause issues identifying walls down the line. Will post if i can get that to work though.


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