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Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:56:47 PM | Manage Sheet Issues / Revisions across linked projects

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Is there a way to propegate sheet issuances / revisions across multiple linked projects without having to manually create them for each project? I am breaking up a large model that will have sections of documentation associated with them, but I don't want to manage revisions in duplicate. Surely there is a way to do this that I'm missing?


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Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:14:34 PM | Manage Sheet Issues / Revisions across linked projects

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The answer to your question is no.

 

THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE - Why would you break up a model?  There is no valid reason to do this.  If you are having slow-down or memory issues, then you have not learned how to use worksets to manage your project.  Read this HELP.


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Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:59:57 AM | Manage Sheet Issues / Revisions across linked projects

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Gotcha. I was coming to that conclusion myself. And then as far breaking up the models...huh?! I have to strongly disagree with you on this one my friend. Breaking up the model is absolutely essential for really large projects. Especially when you anticipate a large number of users. Worksets simply don't go the distance in these cases in my experience.


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Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:33:50 PM | Manage Sheet Issues / Revisions across linked projects

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crwinchester - please give an example of what you see as too large of a project and too many users.  We learned way back when we had to use the 3 gigabite switch how important it was to use proper worksets with partial loads. We had projects that were too large to load with all worksets when it came to print time so we would load what we needed for some sheets then restart with a different load to print other sheets.

 

We typically never own a workset.  If you use that process, you may have problems with too many users.  We only borrow elements.

 

For model views, we also use working views and work only in sheeted model views when we need to annotate the view.  Sometimes we may have a different plan working view for several different users.  In those views, you can write yourself working notes to keep track of why and when you do things.   We have a special red colored text to use for this.

 

With worksets, you can work as if you have a very small file and if your network is adequate, I still say there is NO reason to break up a file except for different contracts.


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Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:58:10 PM | Manage Sheet Issues / Revisions across linked projects

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Here's a perfect example: a stadium. The amount of data contained in project that size is not practical to be all in one model. It requires major components of the project to be broken up into seperate models to manage not only performance, but the number of users required to complete the work - in this case up to 50 people. You must have incredible network and computing hardware if you maintain the notion of simply managing this with worksets. I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this point.


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Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:10:01 PM | Manage Sheet Issues / Revisions across linked projects

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Here is an Autodesk presentation on large project management that may help you.

http://au.autodesk.com/au-online/classes-on-demand/class-catalog/2013/building-design-suite/ab1656#chapter=0


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Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:34:09 PM | Manage Sheet Issues / Revisions across linked projects

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Thanks. I'll take a look.


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Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:35:39 PM | Manage Sheet Issues / Revisions across linked projects

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Thanks for sharing that video. That was pretty informative on some points. Though there was not specific discussion on breaking up models and only a basic discussion about workset management...all stuff I'm very familiar with. You should check out one moment though at minute 25:00 because he did show an example of a broken up model that was color coded ;-) He did also discuss documenting in different models. I suppose we're still in disagreement about this point. If anyone else is reading this I would be curious what other experience people have had in this regard. Cheers.


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