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Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:05:16 PM | Columns in walls.

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Hello...

So i have an issue with incorporating the engineers information into my model. He is using AutoCAD and we Revit 2015. 

I am looking to form a colum of masonry around his steel column. As per the attached CAD image 'CAD Capture'...

My attempt in Revit is not quite as articulate...'Revit Cature'. 

I have inserted architectural columns into the wall but i get a block where i want to void for the column to sit. My best and admittidly clumsy attempt i have trimmed the wall and used another wall type to frame around the column. 

Any help or direction appreciated...

Also apologies in advance for any simplistic operation i have failed to pick up on!



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Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:56:11 PM | Columns in walls.

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I personnaly Architectural columns will always assume the wall properties.  In other words, they will be a pilaster.   Structural columns will keep the materials they are assigned.

 

Typically, here at least, there is no real nice void around the column, the block is laid up solid against the steel and the structural engineer is typically using that for wind bracing.  I would think you would want the block to step around the coulmn to give you something to backup your insulation.  But maybe your in a climate where you can have cold steel penetrating the building like your upper image (but maybe even wider to protect the steel completely.

 

So how can you do what you say you want?  

  • You could create a special pilaster family.
  • You can try to do this with special walls but Revit doesn't handle short wall segments very well.  (You need to understand Revit's layer priority)
  • You could use a void family or in place family to create the void you want.

 I personally think a wider pilaster is the correct answer.


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