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I'm noticing that my workplanes, when chosen for an in-place mass, are highlighting the floor level workplane relative to true north of the project. This is an isue when placing reference points since their axes relate to this orientation which presents a problem when setting up offset relationships. How can you change this? I'm not seeing any options presenting themselves since I'm already in a view oriented to Project North. Thanks.
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Did I break Revit again? Hopefully there is an easy way to do this?
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I haven't got a clue as to what you are saying. Your image doesn't help either.
Where do you see this: "...are highlighting the floor level workplane relative to true north..." ?
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The image shows the workplane as it appears when selected for the placement of a reference point within the in-place mass creation environment. The fact that it is not orthogonal to the view is strange, which is my question: Is it possible to change this? The reason why it is important is that the reference point takes on this orientation which limits the functionality when establishing relationships to other elements. I’ve attached another image of what I mean. Does that make more sense?
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I'm still not sure what you are talking about but it may be your process. Take a look at my images. View is set to project north and true north is rotated.
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These items do not seem to affect the orientation of level's workplane which I'm choosing for the placement of my reference point. I’m working in a view that is set to project north and it defaults to true north. If it always does this and cannot be changed that would be a problem. I’m not seeing any other way to do this process-wise – Open view (set to desired orientation), initiate in-place mass, select workplane, place reference point. Am I missing something?
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I don't think I will ever understand "... orientation of level's workplane..." . A workplane level is flat, infinite in all directions and has no orientation.
You say you are working in a view oriented to Project North. But from what view did you create the mass? I think you need to experiment with that ans see how that affects what you are doing. It appears to me that the reference is always in relatuion to project north, not true north and has nothing to do with the level.
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Apparently level planes do have an orientation and default to a particular direction because the reference point takes on said orientation. It's really strange because I thought the same - the level plane would not have an orientation. I thought the orientation of the view would have been the reason why the point was taking on an orientation as well, but in each orientation, Project and True North, the plane for the level showed an orientation when placing the point and left no other option. Truly strange behavior. The only other thing I can think to do is create a reference plane at the same level and see if that helps. Otherwise I've forwarded the issue on to Autodesk. Thanks for your feedback as always.
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All I can say is that if I create my mass from the true north view with project north not rotated, then I get what you show. When I create the mass with true north rotated from the project north view, then I see what I posted. There is a difference!
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Precisely the problem. It is desired to have control over the orientation of reference points placed relative to the project. There needs to be an option within in the in-place mass environment to orient to either the true north or project north. If it always defaults to true north and cannot be changed its a limitation that should be addressed. Otherwise one would have to rely on the conceptual mass environment to do contextual work. Not ideal in my opinion given this instance. Anyway, its in autodesk's court now whether its worth correcting this or not, so for now I'll live without that functionality.
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